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Warning guys, non manufacture tyres possibly looked at to get out of a warranty claim by Nissan, read on .

I can see this is an old post now however I just wanted to comment something I’m going through with Nissan

I keep getting engine knock and when this happens the power is really cut down, boost is limited to 10psi and probably ignition retarded etc and now that 1.0 Corsa with huge exhausts is catching you up and there is nothing you can do about it. Once you stop and start the car it clears it and back to full power available until you put your foot down and it comes back.

GTR is a 2017 car and so still under warranty and so having made sure it wasn’t poor fuel quality by using. Several tanks of Shell v Max from different locations and it still has the problem then it’s not the fuel.

So far I’ve been to Nissan Dealership 5 times and the problem still isn’t fixed. They download the flicker data and send to Nissan HQ for analysis because they don’t know what to do to fix it.

So far they have replaced both engine knock sensors because they were obviously hoping / guessing it was the sensors and it wasn’t actually engine knock.

This didn’t fiX it so last week I went again for them to Download the flicker
Data again and yesterday Nissan HQ asked the Nissan Dealership to call me and ask what tyres I had on the car? I can only think that if I had non approved tyres then they were going to say the non approved tyres have caused the problem due to rolling circumstances have changed or something like that
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I’ve always had Michelin’s on previous R35’s However luckily I still have the Dunlop Run Flats as supplied and fitted by a Nissan Dealership last year in December when it also got serviced. Aha, no comeback to me there and again now silence..

Car is now going to be rejected. Obviously it’s over the first 30 days so the dealership can deduct an amount for usage. It’s a October 2017 Recaro in Black. I paid £60k last year so just wondering if anyone knows how to work out a fair buy back prices? Especially when I look at prices they seem to have gone up and a 2017 “67” plate seem to be selling now for the same or even slightly more than when I bought mine. Therefore the market price on mine has gone up.

Does anyone know in these circumstances can I request the market price for my car or do I have to accept the price I paid minus an amount for wear and tear? In effect this is making me have to give it back under its current market value and if they end up fixing it they’ll make a fortune and I’ve lost out.

If they had to replace my car with like for like year and mileage then currently that would cost them between 60 to 65k

I’ve been trading up on consumer rights and rejection etc but nowhere seems to list or state how you come to a value especially if you car is worth more now.?????
 

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Do differ between "for sale price" and "actual sale price". In my neck of the woods ppl often set prices way too high and then have to come down to get the car sold.

With that said, very sad to hear you are facing such issues with the car. Hope you get a buy back deal you are satisfied with.
 

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Very likely will be the value of YOUR car as it stands i.e. as if it were good condition and based on mileage and number of owners (which will include you). In other words, the part-ex price. Not particularly fair for you but the deduction between what you paid and what they will pay you to buy it back will be the wear and tear value.
 

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Thanks for your input. I’ve been doing some reading up and apparently it should be a figure higher than just you Px for another car because it is the dealer that has broken the contract according to the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and hence why it says a value can be deducted for wear and tear. The only thing is their first offer is to reduce it by 99p per mile and I’ve done about 7000 so that would be £53k back to me however due to prices being up I am being offered close to £57k as px value or we buy any car.

just feels like I’m the victim a
Of a lemon car that Nissan can’t fix and now a victim on the valuation. I don’t want to just sell it to We Buy Any car etc because there is a fault with the car and I don’t want the next owner putting up with that or having to pay to put it right.

Other cars like classics go up in value and occasionally need to be rejected and bought back so somewhere there must be a law or guidance on the pricing when the vehicle has gone up in value. Or at least hopefully the dealer will see my point.
Also 99p per mile I thought was excessive because that’s on top of the other running costs of petrol , servicing , tyres. Ultimately I wasn’t getting rid of it for another year anyway.

either way, looks like I’m back in the market for another GTR R35 👍
 

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Have you tried it with the stock tyres?
 

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Probably better just selling it to webuyanycar then, if they genuinely will offer 57k. Lots of stories of them not offering their online valuations when car is brought to them though. But anywhere near that figure seems good from what you say. I can't see the dealer offering you 57k for it, they are notoriously stingey and will go low. If you do end up in a court case where the dealer refuses to accept the return then the Judge will decide what is an appropriate valuation. 60k less 7000 miles and wear and tear will be his basis. The starting point can't be more than what you paid originally as then it means you profit from the situation and legally who are only entitled to be made whole ie. What YOU paid less an appropriate deduction. Hopefully you"ll get a good result.
 

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i won’t sell it to we buy any car on the basis there is a fault with the car even though it doesn’t become apparent until motorway speeds and has no warning lights so whilst I could get away with selling it to WBAC I just don’t think that is fair to the next owner.

However why I’m trying to stress to the dealer is that the fault is their fault which they have obviously accepted Because of agreement to take the car back as rejected and it is only because of their fault I’m not selling it to WBAC because I’d have to lie and say the car had no faults and I’m not prepared to do that so Even if they are not going to give me enough to go and buy a direct replacement then WBAC value should be bare minimum or I will take them to court for the difference.

Otherwise it is the fault that came with the car to me which is the same fault that Nissan have failed to fix on 5 attempts and is still under its new car warranty that will put me out of pocket. I’m not solicitor however that just doesn’t quite seem fair to me.

If the car was as it should be when sold tot me “As described and fit for purpose” then I could be putting up for sale now for £63k / £64k so why should I be out of pocket to the amount of £13k after owning a faulty GTR for several months that doesn’t get nowhere near GTRspeedsthen I have suffered enough. I just checked and £51k would get me a 14 or a 64 plate which is 3 years older than mine with more miles. Plus I’m only having to do this because of their fault.

it Is after all their faulty car I’m now lumbered with. I actually bought this GTR from a BMW Main Dealership and because the car is still under its new car warranty of 3yrs and it is Nissan that cant fix it then I feel that Nissan should help out in some way and this is my 4th R35 so I’m quite a loyal customer and about to replace the 4th witha 5th

I think that it’s quite embarrassing for Nissan to not be able to fix their own car and their flagship car for many years! I think in genuine situations like this where the car many need to go away for longer to ensure whenU got it back it was 100% instead of just keeping on trying things then Nissan should have a loan GTR dropped off to me and mine collected and that was I’m not inconvenienced.
 

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Sorry to hear of these issues

I’d have left the car with them & refused to pick it up. Partly the issue they will say is that you have still been driving the car for months

they won’t value your loyalty or custom & you won’t ever get a like for like hire car from them
 

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Yes you have had the benefit of the 7,000 miles so you can't expect to get back the same as you paid (or more based on current valuations). Why don't you make an appointment to see the Dealer Principle and see what they can do for you, based on your current situation?

Alternatively, and this is what I would be tempted to do, why not speak to a specialist tuner such as Litchfields and see if they can fix it - then take that bill to Nissan with a hugely shitty letter and threaten small claims court. The trouble is the car might be totally fixable you just have poor technicians at that dealership.

Guaranteed by the way that WBAC will not give you the online valuation. Apparently they knock you down when you visit by finding small chips and blemishes etc. so it's not quite what you think.
 
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WBAC - their assessors are on commission for reducing the price for each sale (when you turn up). FYI
 

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Valuation-wise it is a standard concept. Think about if you bought something in the sale and it was , say, 50% off full price. Said item goes faulty six months later and you take it back for refund. However, item is now back up to full price. Your rights are to be refunded what you originally paid, not the current higher price.

I just hope the dealer offers you a good price. If not, might very well be worth doing what tonigmr2 says, get it fixed elsewhere and bill Nissan. At least then you might have more control over getting a fairer outcome.
 

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Thanks for your input. I’ve been doing some reading up and apparently it should be a figure higher than just you Px for another car because it is the dealer that has broken the contract according to the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and hence why it says a value can be deducted for wear and tear. The only thing is their first offer is to reduce it by 99p per mile and I’ve done about 7000 so that would be £53k back to me however due to prices being up I am being offered close to £57k as px value or we buy any car.

just feels like I’m the victim a
Of a lemon car that Nissan can’t fix and now a victim on the valuation. I don’t want to just sell it to We Buy Any car etc because there is a fault with the car and I don’t want the next owner putting up with that or having to pay to put it right.

Other cars like classics go up in value and occasionally need to be rejected and bought back so somewhere there must be a law or guidance on the pricing when the vehicle has gone up in value. Or at least hopefully the dealer will see my point.
Also 99p per mile I thought was excessive because that’s on top of the other running costs of petrol , servicing , tyres. Ultimately I wasn’t getting rid of it for another year anyway.

either way, looks like I’m back in the market for another GTR R35 👍

Good morning - buy my car ! Its a beauty !
 

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Sorry to hear of these issues

I’d have left the car with them & refused to pick it up. Partly the issue they will say is that you have still been driving the car for months

they won’t value your loyalty or custom & you won’t ever get a like for like hire car from them
Thanks for your reply, I’ve been offline for a couple of weeks.

finally managed to get the dealership to improve their offer to me and have sent the car back. I’m taking this forward though as a complaint with the motoring ombudsman because in the warranty booklet it has no time limits for the repair and no “Lemon” policy and Nissan wouldn’t give me a cut off date, even when I said 1yr, 5yrs,10yrs they wouldn’t say. Well if they leave you with a faulty car for 10years then that isn’t fixing it as far as I’m concerned.

would love to tell them to shove it and buy something else however there aren’t many cars that you can drop 2 kids to school in, go on to a track day and have a blast, pick up your weeks shopping and the kids anD go home without having to change cars and so I’ve already bought another GTR, 69 plate Recaro in white.
 
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