This is a pretty poor argument. You might as well say "a lorry driver would drive a lorry faster around a circuit than current Formula 1 drivers". The drivers merely train and prepare to drive the machines that are presented to them and within a few percentage it's a level playing field. None of us have any idea whether the drivers from decades ago would have the abilities to withstand the G forces and demands from the engineers for data etc more than likely they'd get blown away however I bet you my house the current drivers are physically in better shape to withstand heat, vibrations and general unpleasant driving conditions for longer than those from Jim Clark eraPlease. You even see some of the young racers driving regular cars, like in the Car Throttle video where Ricciardo and Hulkenberg were in Renault hatchbacks and Ricciardo was mis-shifting like a teen with a new car. There’s been a few racers who got into F1 having raced in other motorsports like Mario Andretti and Mark Donohue. And with contracts, that is part of the reason, but you are mistaken about the imaginary restrictions. They’re not restricted, they’re just too lazy to go racing in other forms of motorsports because they get huge paychecks in F1, so why bother? How come in smaller sports they sometimes partake in multiple different types, like Tanner Foust or Travis Pastrana? Smaller pay, and burning passion. Put any of the new F1 racers in the 70s/80s/90s F1 cars, and they won’t fair well. They all complain now that their drink modes aren’t on, so how’d you expect them to put on leather helmets and race a car with no traction control, no super duper grip or any of the new fancy gizmos they have now, and a crap ton of power? Answer is they wouldn’t. Even Hamilton had a hard time throwing Senna’s McLaren car. There’s no real skill or speciality anymore. F1 is not a motorsport anymore, it’s more of a business unfortunately.
Don't forget daddy's cash:To even get into F1 at its lowest levels you have to have started racing at a very young age, typically in carts, and them come up through the ranks doing well enough to get noticed by a team and will have gone through at least a couple of different race series generally. This is all public record and easily found with less than 10 mins of research. F1 contracts tend to be some of the most restrictive with Drivers lives being scheduled to within minutes typically in order to meet their promotional commitments to the team - one of the reasons Hamilton left McLaren for Mercedes was because he got more freedom at Merc.
Well, since I hear in the UK he is a racing God, how come the racing God wasn't able to adapt to Senna's F1 car so quickly? Surely, his ticket of getting in with help from his IT manager dad's money was a safe bet. Senna and Mansell would annihilate Lewis and his fellows on a race track with ease.How many hours do you think Senna had in that car compared to the tiny amount of time Lewis would have got not enough to be able to drive it like Senna did that is for sure, never mind the potential insurance implications of doing so... Top gear did a series of F1 drivers in a very crappy car doing a lap of their circuit, they smashed "normal" drivers times with ease.
I said they're babies nowadays. Yes, folks like Clark and Senna would annihilate them. I guarantee a group from this forum would be able to top them. I would bet money on it. I would pay to watch it too. Just because mom and dad paid to get someone into carts doesn't make them magically better (ie. Stroll). You're born with it, like Senna and Clark, and even Schumacher.Clearly you think current F1 drivers are pussies and I don't any kind of evidence or reasoning will convince you otherwise. I'll just reiterate my earlier point, they can only drive the cars they are given. If all that was available now was cars of the past then that is what they would be driving and still doing it better than the rest of us are capable of.
How about how Lewis Hamilton and Tony Stewart switched cars?:There is also a physicality that comes into practice. F1 drivers will see an average HR or around the 160, with peaks over 200 and can regularly sit between the 170 and 190. Compare this to a NASCAR driver who sits somewhere around the 125-135 mark.
Jim Clark era had fellows who skipped around the world in different areas to race in different motorsports. Have you seen the video of Clark in South Africa? Tell me more about how he could not withstand heat. Vibrations? You mean how underdeveloped the F1 cars were back in the day, yet they were able to sweep everyone off? No current F1 racer could handle those cars. If you lost speed, you would need to gain it back with work and not the super grip they have nowadays. There was also no safety, so they had to go through more mental obstacles. The new drivers are in better shape, but to call the old ones not as good drivers is an insult. I would love to see the analogy fitted with the NASCAR racers going into the old 50s stock cars. None of them would be able to compete at the level the older generation did, like the King Richard Petty. Man is in his 80s and tore the track of Goodwill a few years ago. You're born with the skill, and sadly I don't see any skill with the new F1 racers besides a small amount.The drivers merely train and prepare to drive the machines that are presented to them and within a few percentage it's a level playing field. None of us have any idea whether the drivers from decades ago would have the abilities to withstand the G forces and demands from the engineers for data etc more than likely they'd get blown away however I bet you my house the current drivers are physically in better shape to withstand heat, vibrations and general unpleasant driving conditions for longer than those from Jim Clark era
Sports in 2020 is full of data and pedants, so the drivers who best adopt to this environment are at the top.
Different times. I'm sorry, I just can't see Hamilton or Vettel beating the likes of Clark or even Fangio if they went back in time to their time period. I can't, really. Even in the 90s, I can't see any of the new racers being a threat to the 90s racers. They would get utterly decimated even with practice, just go and compare them. Sure the current times they make are blistering fast, but it's not hard to man-handle a computer now. If they had the same way they picked drivers as they did back in the 50s/60s/70s/80s/90s, I don't see how they would survive in those said time periods. Really. I can't even tell the current driver's style apart. They all look the same with the occasional Ricciardo nosedives and Verstappen's twitchy overtakes with extreme grip. It's boring.to think that any track day warrior is going to hold their own against an F1 driver (or tbh almost all professional race drivers) you must be deluded.
Exactly.if you had a time machine and took any current F1 driver back to race against Clark or Fangio in theirs cars then yes Clark or Fangio would win.
I wouldn't say that. The new F1 cars have so much advantages that the older cars never had. And like you mentioned with James Hunt, many of the racers weren't in good condition and still gave everyone a good run. They never had trainings, cold chambers, or vehicle simulators to help them win. Look at Raikonnen (last real racer in F1) beating the socks off the younger racers with no simulator, no warmed up tires, etc. Older generations are much more tougher and had balls of steel handling their machines as opposed to to the new racers who would probably die in the first lap in a 50s/60s/70s/80s/90s race.If you bought those guys forward and put them in a current f1 car they would lose. You can't directly compare because technology isn't comparable, the driver requirements are not comparable better or worse is a meaningless term it is just different.
There were more races back then and were long and conditions weren't favorable. Only new track I see that is horrible is the Malaysian one where it gets very hot. However, you might have forgotten how many racers back then raced in places like South Africa where temperatures rose to 40 degrees Celsius, without any drink mechanisms or air conditioning in the quarters! Plus, they drove their cars with the thought in their head that it could possibly be their last race. You don't see that anymore with new F1 racers. Yes, if we took that James Hunt in a time machine to go to this time period, he would probably beat the new racers. They were able to control their cars in a fashion without any of the technological advances we see now (aero, downforce, DRS). Old school rules.Same with any sport you care to mention, what matters the most to success in any sport (or any aspect of life I guess) is focus, determination and desire to win and harnessing of any natural ability. Put side by side do you think Hamilton is any less driven than Fangio was? Take James hunt, out drinking, heavy smoker - never impacted his capability to race, can you imagine him lasting a race distance with fitness like that in a modern car, never mind being a world champion.
It would never happen because of money, time, and because nobody gives a d*mn about anyone anymore. See how the F1 racers treat their fans as opposed to celebrities? Not the same as it used to be. Hypothetically speaking, there might be a handful on here who have the capacity and knowledge to beat an F1 driver. I guarantee it. Put them alongside someone like George Russel or Antonio Giovinazzi or any new racer in that matter and I guarantee there is a high possibility of one of those F1 racers falling victim.I think you need to elaborate on your last statement, in what circumstances do you think that could happen?