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Hiya Guys,

Okay, I'm in the process of upgrading from a late '99 R34 GT-T to a '00 R34 GT-R. I would just like some help out from you guys!

I've been offered a UK one as well as a Japanese import one (both for £33K). The UK one is Silver with approx 49k (fsh) miles on a 'V-Plate, the Jap one is Blue on 'W-Plate and has 19k miles.

What are all the differences between Jap Vs UK ones?

So far as far as I can see they look the same, apart from Leather interior (uk) and cloth interior (jap). Since the uk one has a whopping 30k miles more and is slightly older at V-plate I guess the japanese one seems better value? How good are skylines at racking up the miles? Will the insurance be significantly different considering all Skylines (uk spec ones included) had to go via SVA test anyway?

Leather Retrim
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Middlehurst have quoted me a whopping £1,700 + VAT for a leather interior retrim to uk spec standard. Anyone got any details of a place where I could get it done more reasonably? I prefer the Bayside blue colour over the Silver.

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Middlehurst also talk about 'engine oil coolers'. What are they for? Should I get them fitted if I go for the Jap one? I'm quite tempted by the jap one for the sake of the lower mileage if truth be told. My R34 GT-T that I'm part-exchanging only has 9,500 miles and I'm of the opinion that lower miles is probably a better thing on such high performance cars? Right? Wouldn't i just be better buying a recore for the intercooler from Pace or am I missing the point?

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I've been quoted from Tesco Insurance £1,385 on a '00+ GT-R 2.6 Twin Turbo, V-Spec (i've got 6 yrs NCB, no accidents, no conviction & with a madatory tracker and garaged) but it did specify Japanese import as an option (I'll obviously need to call them to verify this is ok). Bizzare but true but this insurance fee is better value than my R34 GT-T which last year I paid £1,650 for the year. Incredible but true when my GT-T cost me £20K and the GT-R will be £33K.

Any other things I've missed?

Please let me know guys, I'd really appreciate the advice!


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Another 2 1/2 k would get you my U.K. bayside blue, W reg and with only 17k miles!
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The UK cars came with:

Connoly leather interior
Oil cooler(with bumper vent & side outlet)
Diff cooler
Gearbox cooler
Different stereo(with CD changer I think?)
Alarm
Mph speedo and 155mph limiter
Nismo MFD v.1 upgrade


Choice is up to you. I would personally go for the J car as to me the most important is low milage than all the gadgets. Oil cooler is definetly a necessity and you can get HKS, Trust or other ones fitted at a Skyline specialist at a very reasonable price.

Hope this helps a bit.:)
 

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I don't have a problem paying the extra 2 1/2 k. I would love to buy your uk spec car... there's a big problem with that though...

I don't have the time myself to sell my current late '99 R34 GT-T myself (I'm not even in the country during the week) and both Middlehurst & the jap import place are doing me a px-deal.

sorry!


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For what its worth (I dont want to dilute the other thread in the For Sale section) but I think you are definitely making the right choice looking into getting BAYSIDE34's UK spec R34.

If his car wasn't on the market I would've said "Go Jap" since to me mileage is paramount, but you've got the best of both Worlds if you end up buying his car.

Here's hoping it all comes together for both parties :)
 

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I'd really love to buy his Bayside Blue R34... In fact, we are trying to sort something out... Now the biggest hurdle is now selling my car. In the last few minutes I've just spoken with my father and he's said he would love my Skyline R34 GT-T but I've still got the same problem...

I'd need to part exchange or sell his car first... Perhaps his car is easier to see than a specialist Skyline? What do you guys think about that?

He has a W-Plate (UK car bought from Stratstones of Wilmslow) Mazda MX-5 1.8i Special Edition in Racing Green with 24k miles on. He' wants 12K for it in a PX or sale so there I go again.. stuck, stuck stuck, anyone want this motor?... its 1 owner from new in 'as new condition'.. He paid 20k for it in March 2000...., has cream leather interior and hood. Mazda on their offical site have one for sale for £14k, same colour, etc.... but hey I know I'm preaching to the WRONG crowd in this forum.. heheh :)


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Here's a question for you UK Spec Guru's....

Do the UK Spec Skylines still retain their excellent XENON front lights or are they removed to pass the SVA test on official uk cars?

I've got these Xenons on my R34 GT-T and they are superb!


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sigh... thats a bit of a shame for uk guys huh?

On the R33 Skyline I knew they where an expensive option at £600. They became standard on the R34 (well at least in Japan anyway) so when the cars arrived in the uk they must have been removed. :( hmmm... now I wonder if Middlehurst have got all these Xenon lights kicking around their workshop !

Question: Has anyone retrofitted the Xenons back onto a car thats had them replaced with the crappy old 'uk certified' halogens?

The Xenons give a cool daylight effect and give the most amazing nightvision.. I remember that was the very first thing I noticed when I was driving the car home when I bought the R34 GT-T last year, it was how much brighter and more like daylight the road looked.

If I can do it I'd like to swap the Xenons back onto my new R34 GT-R, hmmm perhaps 1 reason to buy the Jap Imported R34 GT-R? My GT-T car got SVA'd without changing them so I guess it must vary depending on the SVA centre...


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I'd heard that Middlehurst binned all the Xenon's they removed from the UK cars. Bugger eh!?
 

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Binned them eh? Hmmm, that sounds a little too suspect to me!

My guess is that probably exchanged them back into Japan to a trade dealer there in exchange for the uk spec oil coolers !!! :) then again I could be completely wrong... but lets be honest who in their right mind would bin them if they KNEW they could make money
 

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Xenons.

For the R33, the list price is about £600-700 per unit.
Middlehurst did not have anything to do with the conversions as they were handled by nissan UK, who apparently ordered them from Japan without HIDs.

(After trying to source sets in the past!)
£600 will get you a second hand set.

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Hmmm.. I wonder how much Nissan UK paid for their Skyline GT-R's ? (£1,200 saving straight away just for no xenons!!!) thats not even considering the 30% EU tax & 17.5% VAT on top of that £1200...

So you could say in some ways the Jap Imports are better than the UK spec models and the UK spec are better in others...

Xenon HID lights on the Jap Car, Vs, Leather Seats on the UK car... both coming close in price comparison...


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When I first bought my car, I had wished that I'd saved up a little more money and bought the UK spec car. I'm glad now I didn't for the following reasons:

1) I hear from ex Middlehurst employees that the fitted NISMO oil coolers weren't suitable. Because they were not thermostatically controlled, the car spent a majority of it's time running on cold oil. This meant a lot of cars came back with engine probs.
2) Xenon lights are a must. Not only are they a dramatic improvement funtionally, but they're a leap ahead aesthetically too.
3) Leather is a funny one. After having been in numerous leather cars, they look luxurious and swave, but they're hopeless on a trackday, with no seat grip youre thrown around all over the place.
4) MFD is Nimo V1, I upgraded from standard to Nismo V2 with better features.

As far as I'm concerned, I have a Japanese car with a better spec sheet than a UK spec car for perhaps the same money. As for warranty, well will you be keeping the car standard?

Cem
 
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