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Which one is best Nissan motor to date?

  • FJ20 variants

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • RB26 variants

    Votes: 59 98.3%

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RB26 the greatest Nissan motor ever or is it the...

FJ20 (and it's variant like the FJ24 and so on...)? VOTE...

heres some article that you guys might find interesting while decieding which one to vote for...

The FJ20 is Nissan thoroughbred engine developed from research during the early 1980's. It originated purely as a racing motor known as the FJ24, to be used in the early S110 Silvia's. This motor was developed soley for the purpose of rallying. The FJ24 then became redundant due to rule changes that closed down the Group B class from the World Rally Championship.

Nissan then had a performance motor that had consumed large amounts time of money and was left with something they would never regain their costs on. Finally a decision was made to detune the FJ24 and reduce it's capacity and use the technology to build an engine that could be sold in Nissan's production cars. Thus the FJ20DET and the FJ20DE were born.

p/s one a more interesting note, the FJ20 never had any rev limiter (or so i heard from my friend who is a nissan speciallist)
Another article....


There are a number of myths surrounding the FJ20DET engine._ The first is that it was designed as a 1.5litre Formula One engine, but when the fledgling Nissan F1 program was canned in the early ‘80’s, the FJ20 was bored out to 2.0litres, detuned and pressed into service as a production engine._ This seems quite an unlikely story, given the FJ’s considerable exterior size, and weighty cast iron block, although the enormous crank, rods and block would have offered a strong base on which to build a mega-boosted F1 engine….who knows?

A much more likely story is that the FJ was designed as a Group B homologation engine, for international rallying._ The S11 Nissan Silvia 240RS was rallied in Group B in the early 1980’s with limited success, and was fitted with a special 300hp, normally aspirated_ 2.4litre FJ24 engine, not an existing production engine at the time.

Unfortunately for Nissan, the 1980’s heralded the decade of the 4WD turbo rallycar, and so normally aspirated, rear wheel drive cars like the Silvia, Escort and Celica died a quick death at the hands of cars like the Audi Quattro on loose surfaces, and the Lancia 037 on tarmac events.

The FJ24 engined Silvia 240RS is now an obscure footnote in rally history, only found on the podium in a handful of events in the very early 80’s, coming third in the World Rally Championship in 1982._ Today the FJ24 is a desirable and sought after rarity, but the FJ20DET still benefits from its competition heritage, being born with strong internals, and a simple, robust design.
as for the RB26, I'm sure you guys know a lot more about it than any article in the world that i can quote. so let just save some time and skip to the voting part:D
 

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oh btw... sorry if i somehow mislocated this thread in the wrong topic... these site got soooo many topic that sometime it confuses me....:confused:
 

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which one is the better engine.... see the poll question...
 

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The RB's without a doubt... I've only been witness of a handful of them, but all of them have been totally clatter-free and sweet-running, regardless of age, mileage and condition...
 

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RB26DETT............best motor in the world.
2JZGTE...............# 2.

I love Japanese inline 6 twin turbos motor :D

Jeff
 

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maybe you guys didnt know this... but the FJ20 are also a skyline engine. it powers the 1984 Skyline RS-X, and also the Skyline DR30.
 

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Sounds like if nissan permits the use of the FJ exclusive to skyline like Mr Sakurai liked it to be you all will be driving the cars with FJs instead of RBs.... :eek:

FACT: Nissan created the FJ20 engine to adapt it on the GC210 SKYLINE (5th SKYLINE which was made 1977- early'81). GC210 SKYLINE had two grades, one is "GT" that had straight-six engine, type number L20. GT is sporty grade and was the most popular model in JAPAN. The other grade was "TI", meaning "Touring International" (like BMW 2002). This grade had wheel-base shorter than GT. So, the handling and nose moving was precise and very quick!, But the engine was poor. Because the engine capacity was only 1800cc, and SOHC 4-cylinder. & Of course without a turbo-charger.

NISSAN's plan was to upgrade the "TI" to a high performance vehicle specs using the FJ20 engine. But it was the newly released DR30 RS2000 Skyline that was built to use the high performance FJ20 engine exclusively.The DR30 was also to use Nissans "ATTESA E-TS"(electronic 4-wheel torque distributing system). But in NISSAN the development was very very slow, so the "ATTESA E-TS" system wasn't ready in time for the DR30 Skyline. But years later "ATTESA E-TS" appeared in 1989,adopting it to the famous (Godzilla) Skyline R32 GT-R & GTS-4.

Nissan then felt that it would not be cost effective to fit the FJ20 only to Skyline models. So they had to modify the FJ20E & FJ20ET to fit in the engine bays of S110/S12 Gazelles/Silvias. The basic compornents and mechanism were kept the same, but in the S110/S12 Silvia/Gazelle the shape of intake/exhaust manifold was made different. So FJ20E/FJ20ET S110/S12 Silvia/Gazelle's had less power and torque than the FJ20 engines in the DR30 SKYLINE's due to the inclusion of their restrictive new manifold.

Mr. Shin-ichiro Sakurai ,
known as "The father of the SKYLINE" recalled that...

"We made the FJ20 for only the DR30 SKYLINE. But NISSAN couldn't permit to put the engine on only SKYLINE, the reason why it was very high cost. Then, we couldn't help using FJ20 to S110/S12. But the space of engine-room is different DR30 and S110/S12. So, we re-make intake/exhaust manifold for S110/S12. It's not original shape. These manifold can't get the power & torque of the DR30's FJ20"
 

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I reckon the CA18 has got to be fairly high up there - look at the power that has been wrung from its 1.8 capacity...
 

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paul said:


maybe he cant afford one?
venners and paul,

ehmm... this would be a bit difficult to answer and i might came off as a joke to you guys..... so please try not to laugh.

it's pretty simple actually, my mom wont let me. it's not that i cant afford a skyline, my 328i cost me USD81k with all the options that i have (yes you read it right 81,000 United States Dollars, car tax here sucks), it's just that i've crashed too many of my jap "rice mobile" cars (2 and i'm not counting my uncles supra, he's pretty pissed btw). so she said "damn if i'll bought you another car of your choice you'll just f'ed it up and prolly lose you life too". so she bought me the bimmer. and she was right, i did slow down after i got a continental car. i feel less stressful when driving one.
5 days ago i was in my mate mitsu GTO and suddenly the "need for speed" came back and i found myself dropping the hammer most of the time. but that urge disappear as soon as i get back in my car.... maybe the only continental car that can wake up the beast in me is a M3 or a porsche.....
 
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McMcMacFan,

Now then, all you need to do is get a GTR and then hammer and bang away at the bodywork until it looks like a BMW. If you struggle to get it into shape try driving it headlong into a wall and getting an elephant to sit on the bonnet.
 
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