GTR Forum banner

1 - 20 of 48 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,226 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
OK here goes - why oh why are we giving our Skylines away so cheap? Right now there is more than one example of a show winning car in better than new condition being sold on our own forum for a knockdown price. Their owners have spent probably double what the cars are being sold for in upgrades and improvements and the cars are better than new.

Supply and demand you say - OK let's talk supply - how about unreplaceable!, I could build one you might say, OK yes but for twice the price they are being sold for?

My point is this... look in the back of MotorSport News is an R34GTR tuned show car worth less than say a MKII Escort rally car just because it was once driven by a rally driver who drove hundreds of other cars too or is it maybe we don't know the true value or appreciate just how special these cars are historically and technically.

You could argue that plummeting values are a good thing because it allows other people to get closer to Skyline ownership but think about it - If owners sell their cars cheap prices fall further, the prospective new owner will lose out and do we all relish the prospect of chav's driving round in un-maintained ragged GTR's.

I appreciate that for some cars it's already happened and maybe it's too late to stop the rot. As someone raised the point recently look at the price of Supra turbos.

But luckily we still have some cars in the UK that are better than new, have been improved, and maintained regardless of cost. So come on guys - if you have a real gem in your garage appreciate what you've got and don't give it away cheap. A good car should not lose it's value just because someone has got hold of a poor example and is selling it cheap on autotrader.

Prices of Skylines are dictated by their owners, remember even in today's market there are cars that are going up in value. because of what they are, good American musclecars in the US for instance now change hands for over 100,000 dollars.

Maybe it means someone will have to pay a lot more to get a good Skyline but only in the same way you'd pay a high price for an item that is unique and truly worth having.

If you think i'm wrong tell me why?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,341 Posts
the prices of the r32 gtrs are on their way up in japan (apparantly), so we should soon be seeing a rise over here.if it starts becoming more to import a car then the sensible thing would be to buy one already here, if there is more demand then the price i would think would go up.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
287 Posts
Prices of R34's will continue to fall in my opinion. The cars are getting older and less desirable and more chav all the time. Sorry but thats just the way I see it!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12 Posts
I've just spent a year in Japan, keeping my eye out for a nice 32GTR, and although it is hard to compare like for like over that year, my impression was that the prices of the R32 had gone up about 20%. Some of that is down to the "summer factor", but they are definitely on the rise. Will be interesting to see what happens over the next year.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
689 Posts
I have noticed an increase in the prices of R32's GTR's over the last few months but so have the japs. There are currently loads for sale in the export auctions! But the current bargain is R33's GTR's they are popping up quite cheep. I was watching one this morning, a 1995 grade 3.5 (due to aftermarket bumpers) with 66k kilometers sold for 1.2 million yen (£5400)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,739 Posts
why are r32's increasing and 33's decreasing in price? would there not be a knock on effect?

Or just because there are way more 33's about than 32's
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
234 Posts
Sad but..

You have to accept that the market is a wonderful thing and, whatever us owners think, the market will determine what our cars are worth, however painful that may be.

I thought that mine was a bargain at £46k including the plate, but i was wrong. If it was a bargain, it would have been snapped up by now. As a seller, I am therefore left with a choice: I can either reduce the price to what the market is prepared to pay, or keep it.

The difficulty with Skylines is having to accept that the money that you spend on your car adds very little value - so you had better just enjoy the extra fun that your modifications give you and be very philosophical when the time comes to sell

ian
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12 Posts
The Japanese are into the cult, and once they become more rare, the price goes up, and on top of that, they are the original... and the best :)

I had a quick look at prices of mk1 MR2's and they are fetching more in Japan now than here, a while ago you couldn't give them away...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
348 Posts
i bought my r32 gtr 4 weeks ago and i paid £4000 pounds for it.
the body work needs attention but the engine is mint, there are a few minor changes that need doing ie: new exhaust, filters ,brakes and a bloody good service and thats about it.
i think of it as a little investment.
and with prices seemingly going up i think ive done very well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
962 Posts
I think the reason R32's and early 33GTR's are closing in price is similar to the Porsche 993 (last of the air cooled) and 996, people recognise a true starting/ end point in a car's history and as time ticks by IMO the R32GTR will be seen as the start of the GTR legend (as we know it today) and the true Godzilla that destroyed all oppostion trackside:clap: , whereas good as the R33 is it was part of the evolution and not THE REVOLUTION. Only time will tell whether the all new GTR will eventually be the quantum leap the R32 was in 1989, all IMO of course:)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
287 Posts
sammy said:
You have to accept that the market is a wonderful thing and, whatever us owners think, the market will determine what our cars are worth, however painful that may be.
Exactly. Just enjoy your cars :)

I didn't buy my R34 GTR as an investment! :D
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,146 Posts
Cars depreciate, lol, get over it people :clap:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
59 Posts
If only you UK guys knew how easy you have it compared to USA guys with regards to Skyline GT-R prices. I had to pay much more for my US-legal 1995 R33 GT-R than most of you guys pay for high-quality tuned R34 GT-R's.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,832 Posts
Please dont let chavs own skylines. Look what happened with that lottery winner who crashed the poor thing. :bawling:

Everytime I think about it I just wanna kill the ******.
Not even joking, if you watch this site I live at Oak Tree Cottage, Oak Lane, billericay. Bring it! Have you heard of oak lane?

So upsetting to see a skyline in a salvage :bawling:

I think the prices are gonna drop big time when the new V8 Crap comes out.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,588 Posts
It is surely largely down to supply. There are a large number of Skylines on the road in the UK now and a huge number available from importers of varying condition at very low prices. 3-4 years ago a Skyline had some rarity value whereas now it is rare for a day to apss without me seeing one.

Also, low prices means that many are falling into the wrong hands and destroying the image of the Skyline brand.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,832 Posts
Nick MW said:
It is surely largely down to supply. There are a large number of Skylines on the road in the UK now and a huge number available from importers of varying condition at very low prices. 3-4 years ago a Skyline had some rarity value whereas now it is rare for a day to apss without me seeing one.

Also, low prices means that many are falling into the wrong hands and destroying the image of the Skyline brand.
Agreed again:clap:
 
1 - 20 of 48 Posts
Top