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To replace the top trim Tesla's battery costs $30,000 USD, not including labor. You can't do this replacement yourself unless you want to become cancer boy. Plus labor, would be roughly $2,000-$4,000 USD because of how complicated it is to take it apart, dispose of it, and the risks the mechanics are making. But of course, the lemmings won't understand this with their wet dream fantasy of a perfect environment. I've seen so many hybrids in the junk yard, mainly due to the battery degradation. I've seen a couple all electric there too. There was more battery/hybrid cars than petrol/diesel of the same age.

Any of you heard about the angry Swedish environmentalist girl? High school drop out trying to tell us how to live our life. Looks like she has alcohol fetal syndrome and aspergers from what can be seen. Wouldn't be surprised her parents drive EVs. Yet, they had to ship their boat and crewmen back on a plane. 4 transatlantic flights total.
 

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To replace the top trim Tesla's battery costs $30,000 USD, not including labor. You can't do this replacement yourself unless you want to become cancer boy. Plus labor, would be roughly $2,000-$4,000 USD because of how complicated it is to take it apart, dispose of it, and the risks the mechanics are making. But of course, the lemmings won't understand this with their wet dream fantasy of a perfect environment. I've seen so many hybrids in the junk yard, mainly due to the battery degradation. I've seen a couple all electric there too. There was more battery/hybrid cars than petrol/diesel of the same age.
It gets worse (update)...


and another interesting Leaf Review :-




Any of you heard about the angry Swedish environmentalist girl? High school drop out trying to tell us how to live our life. Looks like she has alcohol fetal syndrome and aspergers from what can be seen. Wouldn't be surprised her parents drive EVs. Yet, they had to ship their boat and crewmen back on a plane. 4 transatlantic flights total.

Yeah, We've seen way too much about Her already....:rolleyes:


Wish these "Climate Kids" would just stop their screaming and actually try to come up with a solution if they were really that concerned about the environment.
 

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If I took a road trip, I would not trust a battery to get me to the destination at all. The ev owners and proponents from the government never mention the cons of the car (there are a lot more cons to evs than internal combustion engines). Yes, the instant power is impressive. However, now seeing how a lot of owners of older vehicles with a petrol motor are making their car accelerate at a much faster rate that can beat flagship Teslas as seen with the video I posted of a $22,000 - $25,000 USD Mustang (the price includes the modifications done to it) smoking a gutted best of the best Tesla trim, I don't think electric is the future at all honestly. The videos are never acknowledged because of the cult's tendency to never admit defeat. Even a buddy of mine who moved back to his home state of Colorado bought an Evo 8 for $12,000 USD, modified it with parts costing around $11,000 - $13,000 USD and now has 770 hp and 793 ft/lb of torque at the wheels to beat any Tesla that lines up to him. That's $23,000 - $25,000 USD total beating a car that is 6 times the price of his car and the modifications done to it! Is $25,000 the lucky number or something?


Finally someone rolled coal on those Teslas. The Tesla owner cut off the truck and his white knight members from the forums come to his rescue. The comment section is hilarious because it's full of the forum members saying how they would "beat up" the truck driver. In reality, it seems the Tesla owners are really timid in real life, but very strong on the internet commentary section. Another example of how toxic their community is.
 

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I'm surprised the Tesla and EV owners don't mention the fact their cars catch on fire spontaneously. A house not far from me was on fire because the owner's top trim and quickest Tesla caught on fire, and fire fighters couldn't put it out.


Also, when you get in a crash these things are way more dangerous than petrol powered vehicles because the electric vehicles are all electronic and digital with little to no mechanical or analog features. My friends from the other state I lived in told me sent me this:


The guy tried getting out of the car, but couldn't since he was locked in and burned to death. Some Dutchman also got electrocuted by his Tesla in a crash:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-netherlands-idUSKCN11D28Z

I'm sticking with petrol cars until I die. After being physically shocked by my neighbor's Leaf, I am staying away from electric cars for good. They just have good acceleration and that is it. Top speed sucks, range/speed sucks when cold, quality of the ev cars suck, weight is immense and only getting heavier, and they deteriorate like crazy. There's so many 100,000 mile Teslas for sale in California since their range has become so short and the car is just run down as opposed to traditional internal combustion that can last a lifetime.

It's just a trend like the diesel trend back in the day. Once they'll figure out that they can't recycle the batteries the trend will cease most likely, unless they will go against their "zero emission" moral they tried glamorizing. Global warming ain't real, it's just normal for the Earth to change its weather.
 

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The mainstream media is totally silent on the Death's (especially the many that should have been survivable impact Deaths occurring after collision accidents where the trapped Occupant(s) was/were burned alive) caused by EV's....:sick:

Three days spent totally submerged in a massive steel water Tank for the fireball EV infernos to be classed as "Put-Out" by the Fire Brigade....Yeah, Think I'll stick with my old Petrol vehicle thanks!
 

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Company car tax is driving this direction. Next year I have a choice of staying with my BMW 330e or similar hybrid and paying 4Kplus tax or buy an EV and pay no company car tax and spend the 4K on bits for my Nissan. I should also make a fuel saving ontop as there is no electricity motor tax and it's free to charge where I work.

The performance of these cars is also far above conventional engines or hybrids with a telsa model 3 doing 0-60 in 3.6s?

Anyway I have just ordered a 400 bhp Jaguar I-Pace, this will do daily commute with a 250 mile range then my personal 330d for when we go away/ towing race cars
 

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I'm surprised the Tesla and EV owners don't mention the fact their cars catch on fire spontaneously. A house not far from me was on fire because the owner's top trim and quickest Tesla caught on fire, and fire fighters couldn't put it out.


Also, when you get in a crash these things are way more dangerous than petrol powered vehicles because the electric vehicles are all electronic and digital with little to no mechanical or analog features. My friends from the other state I lived in told me sent me this:


The guy tried getting out of the car, but couldn't since he was locked in and burned to death. Some Dutchman also got electrocuted by his Tesla in a crash:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-netherlands-idUSKCN11D28Z

I'm sticking with petrol cars until I die. After being physically shocked by my neighbor's Leaf, I am staying away from electric cars for good. They just have good acceleration and that is it. Top speed sucks, range/speed sucks when cold, quality of the ev cars suck, weight is immense and only getting heavier, and they deteriorate like crazy. There's so many 100,000 mile Teslas for sale in California since their range has become so short and the car is just run down as opposed to traditional internal combustion that can last a lifetime.

It's just a trend like the diesel trend back in the day. Once they'll figure out that they can't recycle the batteries the trend will cease most likely, unless they will go against their "zero emission" moral they tried glamorizing. Global warming ain't real, it's just normal for the Earth to change its weather.
Much of what you add about analogue features already carry across to current fuel based cars. I.e Throttles are all electric, injection, gearboxes, door locks,even steering on many cars has almost complete electric override (porsche are leading this).So it is not true EV's are more unsafe in this regard

I get what your saying about electric cars catching fire, however what a car does in a crash is defined by the approach the manufacturer takes not if a car is an EV or not.

Like it or not you will see and be over taken by many electric/hybrid cars in the future as apart from your leaf example most are very quick for "ordinary" cars
 

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I get what your saying about electric cars catching fire, however what a car does in a crash is defined by the approach the manufacturer takes not if a car is an EV or not.
Catching fire while parked is not common for petrol powered cars. For ev cars it is, as seen with the videos I showed. Look it up online, there's hundreds of videos with them catching fire. Then they spontaneously combust while being towed into the scrap yard to be recycled into a Hyundai.

Like it or not you will see and be over taken by many electric/hybrid cars in the future as apart from your leaf example most are very quick for "ordinary" cars
My man, tell me how a $18,000 USD RWD Mustang with a $4,000 USD twin turbo kit beat the top of the line AWD, gutted, Tesla ($150,000). And tell me how a Dodge Demon without the crate and with full interior beat another gutted, AWD, top of the line Tesla which costs double the price? Should I also add the video of a 400 hp Civic hatch beating the same top of the line gutted/hacked Tesla? It simply isn't the future. These EV motors have been around for a century, and on they were racing on the drag strips in the late 80s early 90s. Their acceleration isn't anything surprising, in fact many of the drivers of them I noticed driving around cannot control the car that well even with AWD+nannies. Deterioration, scrapping, range, reliability, emergency situations, and weight are there largest issues. No way in improving those since it’s just the way it is. Having driven two, the dynamics and feel of the cars are terrible too, and those who disagree are just lying to get approval from their ev boyfriends. Should I also mention the numerous amount of crashes with them on road race tracks due to the judgement of velocity is hindered drastically due to no noise? Petrol/Diesel vehicles are improving each year and catching up with acceleration points of ev, just like we see with the mid engine Corvette. Just a sought after utopia, the ev movement is. That’s just my take on it though.
 

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Decided to share this little funny video. It's going to be funny when people decide to outrun police with their electric cars, how far they will go with their little woman shaver by the time they run out of their precious charge which was made by natural gas and coal plants. What will be hilarious is how easy it will be for the petrol powered sports cars to escape electric vehicles in California when petrol powered cars have a much higher top speed and endurance compared to electric. I mean, there were sports cars who escaped that Tesla police car, yet they don't have videos of it since they wish to pursue the sheepish trend onto the lemmings.

Also in the news, turns out ev charging stations are increasing their prices. Oh what joy this is to see. Especially when many owners thought it would be cheaper. Like I said ages before, just a way to control the sheep and make even more money off of them. Now that the battery production is in China, imagine how horrendous the quality will be. But of course, people will support a country that is ruining the economies of other countries and just a problem to the world in general. I have 680,000 hours left to live and I don't want to waste any of those hours just waiting for a stupid hunk of junk to charge so I can go somewhere.

Forgot to post this video when I made this post. Another man was killed by his Tesla
Was trapped in the car as well.
 

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Is the “all electric” bulls**t by 2035 going ahead in the US?

Please tell me Greta and her knobs aren’t calling the fake shots there.
 

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Is the “all electric” bulls**t by 2035 going ahead in the US?

Please tell me Greta and her knobs aren’t calling the fake shots there.
Nah, only in commiefornia. People there only commute 20 miles a day since everything is cramped there and praise that high school drop out with nothing better to do. They want to ban it in that state on 2040. All other states are for keeping them. Last time I went to Oklahoma and Texas they were selling 105 octane at the gas stations and our racing fuel gas stations are expanding with 112 octane leaded petrol. Look up "Trump vs CARB" and you'll see how he's reversing the emission/green idiocracy.
 

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So, it appears the mainstream automotive Youtube channel known as "Donut Media" uploaded a video about how much more efficient and environmentally friendly an EV is compared to an internal combustion engine. I quit watching their videos a long time ago ever since I realized their "Up to Speed" segments with James Pumphrey are basically plagiarized scripts off of the Wikipedia site. The host of this other segment began bringing up false facts and using the rose colored glasses of how we will all have clean energy soon (which is a huge task to partake in since coal is king in terms of convenience and amount of joules per piece). He later "debunked" comments about how EVs use coal powered energy. They're based in California, so their leftist agenda is prevalent especially when they made a video about how removing catalytic converters can harm the engine. What a bunch of clowns, and seems they were sponsored by a greeny's app and website in the video. And them making fun of baby boomers is just a way of them showing their millennial thinking. If it weren't for baby boomers, most of the things they have now would not exist.
 

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I know this is 7 months late, but I agree that the time is fabricated coming out of Jesus Musk's butt hole. Their cream of the crop trim model 3 can only get around the ring in 9 minutes, and that is with a professional racer and restrictions lifted from their electronic software.

What's funny is that the electric Porsche claims a record 17 times faster than a 25 year old Nissan Skyline R33 GTR that is somewhere in the 300 horsepower range with older engineering. And this is with all the gizmos and nannies that help the racer stay on course. I actually saw one of those new Porsches driving around my neighborhood and I have got to say it is massive. It could barely fit on the road. I saw it head onto a roundabout and holy body roll could that thing barely contain itself going in 25 mph. Weighing 5200 pounds, basically heavier than a Honda Pilot SUV by 1000 extra pounds.

In general, if electric cars had low gear differentials instead of their 9 and above ratio, they would be drastically slower on a drag strip. They're all once trick ponies.
 

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The combustion engine has a 100 year head start. The fact they are already snapping at the heels after less than 20 years is a good sign.
 

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The combustion engine has a 100 year head start. The fact they are already snapping at the heels after less than 20 years is a good sign.
Ev was made the same time around internal combustion engines. Just cause recently a South African pretty boy made a model that accelerates quick from a standstill due to development on drag-strips and an over-sized differential gear doesn't mean they're snapping at the heels. Imagine all that acceleration being used on a race course, and right after you're done you need to charge and wait 2 hours for it to be fully charged to go race again. Whereas with petrol you can probably do another lap and then fill up in 3 minutes time. Batteries had 150 years to development, but still does not come close to the efficiency of a joule of petroleum per weight. Also from common argument that ev owners, the batteries to deteriorate very badly. That’s why high mileage ones are listed for sale more. Coincidence?
 

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Dare i admit it on this thread! But i quite like Tesla's. The model 3 performance especially.

I think people that would not previously consider them will get forced into them for cost reasons and then there will be no going back.

When you factor in:
No road tax
No benefit in kind tax
No, or close to no, servicing needed.
From £3 electric for 300 miles range.
8 year or 100k miles battery warranty

And the batteries are now believed to last 300k miles plus and be cheaper to replace:


The cost savings alone. Especially for company car drivers who do loads of miles is just huge!

Unlike what came before it like the Prius, leaf etc that were practical but boring. As well as saving all this money they are now fast as well. 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds for a £56k car.

They will be everywhere soon.
 

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Dare i admit it on this thread! But i quite like Tesla's. The model 3 performance especially.

I think people that would not previously consider them will get forced into them for cost reasons and then there will be no going back.

When you factor in:
No road tax
No benefit in kind tax
No, or close to no, servicing needed.
From £3 electric for 300 miles range.
8 year or 100k miles battery warranty

And the batteries are now believed to last 300k miles plus and be cheaper to replace:


The cost savings alone. Especially for company car drivers who do loads of miles is just huge!

Unlike what came before it like the Prius, leaf etc that were practical but boring. As well as saving all this money they are now fast as well. 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds for a £56k car.

They will be everywhere soon.
Adrian, my good sir, no disrespect to you since you seem like a very nice guy but I would have rather preferred reading someone who was independent and not by author Carter Stone who serves his lord and savior Mr. Musk with false information. Click on the author's name and all he makes is positive articles about Teslas and his leader. Unfortunately, he is wrong and you have been misinformed. Take a gander of what real owners had to say about the car's deterioration.


Also, seems the Taycan caught fire not long ago:

Probably a greeting from the ev cult "Welcome to the club" fire ritual. Will never support the electric cars, especially since they use Chinese made batteries which prove to be utter garbage and further helps China take control of the global economy. That acceleration is all the model 3 has going for it. Dynamics, quality, and handling are all bad. Been in one too, was crap.

Take a look at the 3's quality body work. Wasn't there an issue with the doors being longer on one side than the other by a few centimeters and door panels falling off altogether?



Just remember, eventually they will be taxed. They started to tax electric vehicles in california, so don't expect the no taxes to be going on for long. It's just blatant politics being pushed from the left unfortunately.
 

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Very interesting news. A Youtuber posted a video about the cons of a Tesla 3 model and replaced the appliance with a real petrol car. The Tesla fanboys reported the video and had it removed from Youtube. Not a fan of the drive as it is becoming a political sh*t show like Jaloponik. After the video was removed by Youtube, Tesla also terminated his referral code because of his comments on the model. You can only imagine if GM or Toyota did this sort of thing.


Of course, not many understand how crappy Teslas really are because (As mentioned before in the original post) the forum members curse out the critic or because the journalists show bias to them, as seen with electric car blogs like electrified garage. Now they are having a truck released that looks like an 8 year old drew. How people have become sheep does not surprise me. On the bright side, more fossil fuel for us.
 

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had to laugh

Adam is Mr GTR. Must have owned more 35's than anyone else on this forum.

But apparently now a weirdo? lol.
 
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