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Hi All,

I've been given a chance to purchase a Hakosuka 4 door and would like to know what are the usual problem areas with these cars?

Also interested in the value of the cars. The one i'm looking at is a 4 door, originally 1483cc G15 car, and now has a 1815cc G18.

Thank you all in advance :)
 

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You don't question it. You just buy it and worry about the problems later
 

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you'll get it when our resident expert sees this, but it is a case of buy, then worry. Otherwise there will be a queue of people tread over you to get it.
 

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same shade as the hens teeth?
 

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you'll get it when our resident expert sees this...
DaveW?

OK, here's some input from a civilian enthusiast without any commercial interest-driven spin on it: What C10-series Skyline do you really want? How close is the car in question to that?

The 4-door, short nosed 4-banger cars were pretty much the entry-level poverty spec C10s when new. They were the cheapest, simplest, most de-contented no frills models aimed at fleet sales in the same way that a Consul Cortina or Escort Popular were. That can be cool now, but only if that's what you really, really want. Is it?

For any C10-series Skyline (just like any Japanese car of the same era) the key point is the unibody structure itself. They are mechanically fairly simple, and it is always possible to get replacements for bolt-on mechanicals or to somehow make-do-and-mend (although the G-series 4-banger engines are notoriously difficult to source parts for), but 'Part Number One' is the unibody and it is all about structural integrity. Rust takes its toll and a 45+ year old unibody car is unlikely to have escaped it. Likewise past crash damage and poor repair can take their toll in only revealing themselves after purchase, so any candidate would need very careful inspection by somebody who knows what they are looking for.

Sorry but it's hard to say much more than that without reference to a particular car, and in any case such a purchase would have to be viewed on a case-by-case basis. Got any photos/description?

If the car is still in Japan then it has to be said that the current exchange rate makes it a fair bit more expensive today than it was a few weeks or months ago. Value? That's very difficult as there are proportionately so few surviving short-nosed 4-cyl cars compared to long-nosed 6-cyl cars, and that means it's difficult to find one for sale at any particular time let alone cross-ref and compare. They are a niche interest, and therefore you might find one for as little as 500k JPY or as much as 2million JPY. You will tend to find that a hard core of Japanese enthusiasts/dealers will jump on any newly emerged 'barn find' before it gets time to hit the open market, so any such car will usually have been filtered before it comes onto your radar.

One other thing to think about is that if you take such a car out of its (Japanese) context it can make it difficult to sell on in the future. The 4-cyl C10s suffer from the effect of not being good candidates to modify (6-cyl C10s often get turned into GT-R lookalikes...) and that limits their potential sell-on value. Negative equity is a distinct possibility.
 

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Car is in Thailand then? Different situation than if it was in Japan...

It's been given the GT-R 'look' too. Kind of bizarre on a short wheelbase car, but there's some novelty value to that I suppose.

Hard to tell much from those photos, but I get the impression that this used to be a fairly rusty car and that the shiny paint covers some fairly superficial rust repairs. Also, was it originally Auto transmission version? It looks like a home-made Auto to Manual trans conversion to me...

If it's been given the shrunk-in-the-wash GT-R lookeylikey treatment, what have they done with the original rear arches and the rear doors? That's an area I would check out MOST carefully.

Literature (factory parts lists, factory service manual etc) can all be sourced in original ($$$) or repro ($) form from Japan-based specialists, so that would be the least of your worries.

Be careful!
 

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Yep, the cars in Thailand.
Im also based in TH; no good resources on these cars here.
on the plus side dont have to worry about the GBP depreciation!

I will take another look around the rear arch/door area
It does look like a potential manual conversion.

I'm fairly new to these cars, so excuse my beginner questions:
- Were the short nosed hakosukas on leaf springs at the rear, or multi-link?
 

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Yep, the cars in Thailand.
Im also based in TH; no good resources on these cars here.
on the plus side dont have to worry about the GBP depreciation!
At least you'll be able to have a good look at it before making a decision. I'm presuming it's an original Thai market car too?

hyperlemon said:
I'm fairly new to these cars, so excuse my beginner questions:
- Were the short nosed hakosukas on leaf springs at the rear, or multi-link?
Yes, basically all G-series engined C10-series Skylines had leaf-sprung live rear ends.
 

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