[Marko R1]

hi guys,

i have heard it all about why hks are better than garrett turbos but yet to see/read any evidence...i would to get to the bottom of this topic

will hks gtrs produce better results than garrett?

in particular, i have -10s on my setup & my mate wants to buy a t04z for his r33, he thinks that hks is far superior. i want to set the record straight.

thanks,

 

[fr0sty]

hks's turbo are based on garrett's specs just different housing options...... so why not look at a specific turbo for a specific task??

 

[Marko R1]

point taken...let me rephrase & elaborate.
will a hks t04z make more power than a garrett t04z?
will a hks gtrs kit make more than garrett -10s?

 

[godzirra]

the key will be to look at comp wheel and turbine wheel sizes...

so far i've seen the gt-rs and -10 exactly the same for both

not sure on to4z

 

[nismodude]

the hks to4z is a bit laggy(on rb26)wy not use a twin scroll?
know a few people with good experience

 

[Austrian GTR]

the hks to4z is a bit laggy(on rb26)wy not use a twin scroll?

Sorry to tell ya but a HKS T04Z is a twin scroll :chairshot

Leo

 

[nismodude]

jep your right bud only the exhaust side

 

[nismodude]

the garrett 3582 performed better on a rb26 faster spoel

 

[Austrian GTR]

jep your right bud only the exhaust side

Sorry, but I have to ask this, have you ever seen a twin scroll charger in flesh or do you even know what's the idea behind a twin scroll charger???

As then you should know that only housing which is divided is the exhaust housing...

... everything else won't make any sense

Leo

 

[Red R Racing]

point taken...let me rephrase & elaborate.
will a hks t04z make more power than a garrett t04z?
will a hks gtrs kit make more than garrett -10s?

yes and yes

 

[nismodude]

friend of me built a rb26 rods pistons enz enz 1e choise hkst04z lots of power
but al top end now he is running gt3582 a fraction les in high rpm(above 8)
but hell of a lot better low range

 

[T04Z GTR]

opcorn:

 

[bigkev]

yes and yes

proof?

 

[StretchGSK]

I don't think Marko is after advice on what turbo setup to buy.
He is simply looking for hard facts that either confirm or disprove that HKS turbo's are superior in any way to the "identical" Garrett

 

[Lith]

Whenever this conversation comes up, HKS fan boys tend to give all sorts of mysterious reasons but nothing of solid proof. Only way of knowing for sure is by trying both turbos on the exact same car and winding them up/tuning to suit and seeing what happens.

I personally have never seen anything to suggest that the HKS turbos are any "better". There are some turbos in the HKS range which flow a bit more than what is purported to be the Garrett equivalent - but its more like the closest equivalent as opposed "better", ie the HKS GT2530 will make a bit more power with a bit more lag than GT2860-5s in my experience.

 

[Marko R1]

yes and yes

paul, stay out of it

anyway, i think ive opened up a can of worms & at the end of the day ppl have their preference, i.e. is a blonde hottie better than a brunette hottie?

 

[GT-R Glenn]

I personally have never seen anything to suggest that the HKS turbos are any "better". There are some turbos in the HKS range which flow a bit more than what is purported to be the Garrett equivalent - but its more like the closest equivalent as opposed "better", ie the HKS GT2530 will make a bit more power with a bit more lag than GT2860-5s in my experience.

Ummm...
Last time this was discussed I posted the link to the Au site where they did run back to back setups on the same engine / dyno with 2530/-5s/517z and the 2530's made more power.
I have always said the 2530 makes more power than -5's in every discussion on those blowers.
I cant comment on the o4z's
Or the -10

 

[R.I.P.S NZ]

Whenever this conversation comes up, HKS fan boys tend to give all sorts of mysterious reasons but nothing of solid proof.

They need to try and justify paying twice as much for basicly the same thing somehow mate.

All world record holding drag RB's (mine included) as far as I know, all use Garretts, not one I have seen stay with HKS even if they have had them at some point.

Proof of HKS not being better than Garrett? who knows.

Rob

 

[Lith]

and the 2530's made more power.
I have always said the 2530 makes more power than -5's in every discussion on those blowers.

Which is consistant with what I said - GT2530s have a more aggressive compressor trim and the cars I have driven with -5s and GT2530s back to back (its been a while but) give a feel that in lower gears the GT2530s feel a bit more sluggish in the lower revs etc, but flow a bit better up top. Not surprising, given the GT2530 is a more aggressive turbo

 

[Lith]

All world record holding drag RB's (mine included) as far as I know, all use Garretts, not one I have seen stay with HKS even if they have had them at some point.

Proof of HKS not being better than Garrett? who knows.

After HT took the record using a Garrett GT45R, HKS released a GT45R. Oops I meant the T62R... :chuckle: