[g35brit]

Dont worry i did the search,
The only thing is has anybody actually been pulled for having front tints, and would you fail your MOT if you had them, or more to the point has anyone failed their MOT because of them.
I really want mine done and get p****d off seeing mercs etc driving around London all day with a full tint job which will not let anything like 75% light in.
See a nice Supra down Southend 2 weeks back, that also had the full tints.
Also if pulled is it just a £30 fine or something ???

 

[RedsunsFD]

You can have the sides and back tinted I think with no problem, some cars have this as standard (Toyota Previa). But as for the front, I'm not quite sure.

 

[SPEED MERCHANT]

Right !!!

The boring legislation under the CONSTRUCTION & USE REGULATIONS of which people can be done under the use, cause & permit angle for vehicle glass post 1978 is ....

LEGAL JARGON ALERT !!! :

Regulation 32 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 specifies the type and construction standards of glass which must be fitted to motor vehicles and caravans since 1978. It states (in part):-

32(10) Windscreens or other windows constructed in accordance with the provisions of this regulation of specified safety glass, specified safety glass (1980) or safety glazing specified in relation to a vehicle of a class specified in an item below shall have a visual transmission for light of not less than the percentage specified for the windows mentioned in that item when measured perpendicular to the surface in accordance with the procedure specified in a document shown, unless exempted by paragraph (11).

NOTE: This sub-regulation shall not apply to a vehicle in respect of which a passenger vehicle approval certificate has been issued under the Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 1996, if it complies with or is exempt from the approval requirements relating to glazing.

Item 1.
In motor vehicles first used before 1st April 1985, all windows should have a visual transmission of light of not less than 70 percent when the procedure set out in British Standard Specification No 857 or No 5282 is applied.

Item 2.
In motor vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1985 and trailers windscreens should have a visual transmission of light of not less than 75 percent while in all other windows the requirement is of not less than 70 percent when the procedures set out in the documents mentioned in the definition of 'specified safety glass 1980' are applied. (see below)

32(11) Paragraph (10) does not apply to-

(a) any part of any windscreen which is outside the vision reference zone;
(b) windows through which the driver when in the driver's seat is unable at any time to see any part of the road on which the vehicle is waiting or proceeding;
(c) windows in any motor ambulance which are not wholly or partly in front of or on either side of any part of the driver's seat; or
(d) windows in any bus, goods vehicle, locomotive, or motor tractor other than windows which-

(i) are wholly or partly in front of or on either side of any part of the driver's seat;
(ii) face the rear of the vehicle; (see below) or
(iii) form the whole or part of a door giving access to or from the exterior of the vehicle.

32(11A) Paragraphs (10) and (11) have effect in relation to any tint, film or other substance or material applied to a windscreen or window as they have effect in relation to the windscreen or window itself.

32(12) For the purposes of this regulation any window at the rear of the vehicle is deemed to face the rear of the vehicle if the inner surface of such window is at an angle exceeding 30 degrees to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.

32(12A) Paragraphs (2), (6), (7) and (8) do not apply to a window which is legibly and permanently marked with a designated approval mark. (see below)

32(12B) Paragraph (10) above does not apply to a window if-

(a) it is a window to which paragraph 12C applies and is legibly and permanently marked with a designated approval mark which does not comprise the Roman numeral 'V' (other than as part of the combination 'VI'); or
(b) it is not a window to which paragraph 12C applies and is legibly and permanently marked with a designated approval mark.

ARE YOU STILL AWAKE !!!


32(12C) This paragraph applies to a side or rear window if-

(a) any part of it is on either of or forward of the driver's seat; or
(b) any part of it is within the driver's indirect field of view obtained by means of the mirror or mirrors which are required to be fitted by regulation 33 when such mirrors are properly adjusted;
and for the purpose of this paragraph a mirror shall not be regarded as being required to be fitted by regulation 33 if, were it to be removed, the vehicle would nevertheless meet the requirements of regulation 33.

32(13) In this regulation, unless the context otherwise requires-

"British Standard Specification No 857"
The British Standard Specification for Safety Glass for Land Transport published on 30th June 1967 under the number BS 857 as amended by Amendment Slip No. 1 published on 15th January 1973 under the number AMD 1088.


"British Standard Specification No 5282"
The British Standard Specification for Road Vehicle Safety Glass published in December 1975 under the number BS 5282 as amended by Amendment Slip No. 1 published on 31st March 1976 under the number AMD 1927, and as amended by Amendment Slip No. 2 published on 31st January 1977 under the number AMD 2185.


"British Standard Specifications BS AU 178".
The British Standard Specification for Road Vehicle Safety Glass published on 28th November 1980 under the number BS AU 178.


"Designated Approval Mark"
means -

(a) in relation to a windscreen, the marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 5 of the Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 31 in Schedule 4 to those Regulations, and

(b) in relation to a window other than a windscreen, the markings designated as approval marks by regulation 5 of those Regulations and shown at item 32 in Schedule 4 to those Regulations.


"Safety glazing"
material (other than glass) which is so constructed or treated that if fractured it does not fly into fragments likely to cause severe cuts.


"Security vehicle"
a motor vehicle which is constructed (and not merely adapted) for the carriage of either -

(i) persons who are likely to require protection from any criminal offence involving violence; or

(ii) dangerous substances, bullion, money, jewellery, documents or other goods or burden which, by reason of their nature or value, are likely to require protection from any criminal offence.


"Specified Safety Glass"
glass complying with the requirements of either-

(i) British Standard Specification No. 857 (including the requirements as to marking); or
(ii) British Standard Specification No. 5282 (including the requirements as to marking).


"Specified Safety Glass (1980)"
glass complying with the requirements of either-

(i) the British Standard Specification for Safety Glass for Land Transport published on 30th June 1967 under the number BS857 as amended by Amendment Slip No. 1 published on 15th January 1973 under the number AMD 1088, Amendment Slip No. 2 published on 30th September 1980 under the number AMD 3402, and Amendment Slip No. 4 published on 15th February 1981 under the number AMD 3548 (including the requirements as to marking); or

(ii) British Standard Specification BS AU 178 (including the requirements as to marking); or

(iii) ECE Regulation 43 (including the requirements as to marking).


"Vision Reference Zone"
means either-

(i) the primary vision area as defined in British Standard Specification No. 857;

(ii) Zone 1, as defined in British Standard Specification No. 8252;

(iii) Zone B (as regards passenger vehicles other than buses) and Zone 1 (as regards all other vehicles) as defined in British Standard Specification BS AU 178 and in ECE Regulation 43.


"Windscreen"
includes a windshield.



So after a deep breath of that lot the offence can be delt with by a £30 fixed penalty, a V.D.R.S (Vehicle Defect Retification Scheme) if a force or constabulary still runs one or you may be asked to remove it there & then which would normally be the end of it if you do.

When I had mine done at JAE I had a smoke on the driver & passenger windows & limo black on the rest which won't cause me any MOT problems. I wouldn't bother with the windscreen personally though anyway as anything blocking the wiper 'arc' is a no no as shown above ...

 

[g35brit]

Thanks for your response but i have read the regs etc and the tint companies
have pointed out what you can and can't do.
Still my question is has anybody been pulled for it because like i say if you drive around mayfair and the west end there are countless cars with full tints.
Example ; i was sitting in traffic 2 months back and 'puff daddy' or whatever he calls himself comes strolling out of The virgin record shop by kensington church street along with his onterage, they then climb into no less than 4 white mercs and a Hummer and shoot of escorted by a law car (all for the image i know), but every one of them had full tints, so did they get special permission or as im trying to figure out do the police etc turn a blind eye to it.
I do not know and have not heard of anyone ever getting fined etc.
By the way 'Speed' thank god for cut and paste.:clap:

 

[mava_rules]

i didnt have extreme tints on the front but were still illegal, didnt get stopped and pased its mot. some police forces dont have the measuring equipment to do it but vosa does. if you do get stopped and fined as far as i am aware you will need a new mot when you have removed them (i know this applies for other unroadworthiness like tyres).

 

[g35brit]

Thanks mava.
I got a funny feeling we wont have anyone on here thats been pulled or heard of anyone in any car being pulled.
I could be wrong though. It would be good if they were easy to remove and replace, that way you could just put them on and take them off as you desire, like going for a little cruise down the sea front :smokin: :thumbsup:

 

[Stan]

How good is the tinted film you can put on & sticks on by vacuum?
OR
Have I just committed a massive faux pas, and the tinted film is a very uncool thing to do ?

 

[g35brit]

How good is the tinted film you can put on & sticks on by vacuum?
OR
Have I just committed a massive faux pas, and the tinted film is a very uncool thing to do ?

I would think putting it on is like one of them 3pairs of hands rqd. Then how easy is it to take back off.
Dont know whether to just go for it:runaway:

 

[BigBob]

I tint windows and always explain the legalities to customers, we will tint to whatever spec they wish once explained. Two to my knowledge have been pulled, one was fined £30.00 and allowed on his way while the other was fined £30.00 and ordered to remove the front tints. Both vehicles had the same degree of tint so basically down to who pulls you!!

Bob

 

[Mat B]

Hi i was pulled and tested on the spot by the VOSA.
I didnt get fined then, i just got a prohitbition on my car forbidding me to drive it. I then had a certain amount of days to remove my tints (14 i think) before i faced a supoosed fine up to £2000.
Only problem was my tints were glass not film
You do not need a new MOT as you phone the VOSA and a local engineer for them comes out and inspects your vehicle to confirm that it hasd been removed and then the prohibition is lifted

 

[g35brit]

Are vosa the people that set up random stop checks and pull you into a coned of area creating about 20 miles of traffic?
I drive a van most days and commercials are always being checked, just wondered if that was them or just plain police.
Did you change all your front windows then Mat ?

 

[turboslippers]

Dads T350 tvr and scooby both came from the TVR dealer with front tints....done before the front side window rule came in. Never had a problem with those ones although i did inform the new owner of the TVR that the front tints were illegal and it was his responsibility. We tinted dads R34 GTR on the front sides, rear sides and back and he has been pulled for having vaguelly blue bulbs (previous owner). We didn't even know that the sidelights had a blue tinge to them but he got pulled anyway and the officer in question didn;t appear to notice the tints (didn't know at this time either that front sides were illegal). I'm guessing that the officer didn;t know either...but then, apparently, he was more interested in the spec of the car than the VLT of the windows.....

 

[stealth]

Got them on mine ,next up from legal shade all round so it looks uniform but not over dark .If you do get them done get a pro to do it otherwise your car will look like a chav wagon as it not an easy job to do right.Price I paid £180.00 . My car is parked at the Hotel quite often and a couple of times a month we have the Police Federation confrences there and they often look over my car when outside having a smoke . I have a very small number plate too and no problem so far .I think if you avoid the Limo black shade of tint which takes the p1ss abit you should be ok ,also you more likely to get pulled in a blinged up boy racer Saxo type with all the crap fitted to it than a nice looking Skyline.

 

[daz2206]

my front windows are so dark i can hardly see out during the daytime, i have to drive with the windows down on a night otherwise i cant see anything, ive never been stopped for it but will be getting them redone to the legal limit when i have some spare money.