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I have an RX-7 but read this forum. I have witnessed the on going discussion about various 'projects' and am surprised at how impressed people are about these XYZ cars. i mean all that these people have done is gone out and bought these cars.

They didnt work on them themselves and proberly dont know that much about the mods they have. I hope that any UK built Skylines do well at Ten of The Best.

Dont get me wrong, I love the way that the Japanese modify there cars, but I want them to be interseted in what the UK are doing with there cars, rather than just thinking we buy all there old modded stuff because we cant do it ourselves.

P.S There are alot of GTST nobheads who think an exhaust, filter and boost upgrade gives them 350-380BHP. I feel sorry for you GTR owners, cus these dreamers bring the Skyline name down.
 

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I have an RX-7 but read this forum. I have witnessed the on going discussion about various 'projects' and am surprised at how impressed people are about these XYZ cars. i mean all that these people have done is gone out and bought these cars.

They didnt work on them themselves and proberly dont know that much about the mods they have. I hope that any UK built Skylines do well at Ten of The Best.

Dont get me wrong, I love the way that the Japanese modify there cars, but I want them to be interseted in what the UK are doing with there cars, rather than just thinking we buy all there old modded stuff because we cant do it ourselves.

P.S There are alot of GTST nobheads who think an exhaust, filter and boost upgrade gives them 350-380BHP. I feel sorry for you GTR owners, cus these dreamers bring the Skyline name down.
As opposed to you who is just an ar$e!

So what if somebody buys an already modified car? does it matter that this is could easily be a cost/time effective starting point? I see very little point in your post at all other than to pi$$ many skyline owners off.

now why don't you take you 1.3 and go play somewhere else.........:rolleyes:
 

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Why are you so defensive? A forum is a place for people to air there views. Some of comments are like something a little kid would say in the play ground.
However I agree with your point that if you want to save money then importing a modded car from Japn is a very cost effective way to do it. Just dont expect any of the respect that someone who has done it themselves would get.
When you go to a meet or a show, it is very annoyoing when someone has a heavily modded car, and you ask them what size injectors they have or what trim the turbo is and they dont have a clue.
 

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Dear Mr RX7 owner

Oh dear people don't meet your expectations with regard to what they should and shouldn't do with their cars.

Well I really can't take anything you say seriously but, I will make an exception in your case as I feel sorry for you.

The Project X and Z are specific drag cars and to build these cars over here would cost 2 to 3 times MORE than buying the complete cars in Japan. Common f*****g sense I'd say. They are bought as fun cars and the 3 owners (Guy and Henry jointly Project X) also have their own UK built road GTR's.

All 3 cars are being looked at thoroughly by their chosen UK tuners before they can run.

It's all about getting the best you can for your money and is nothing to do with building it yourself as 99.9% of car owners are mere mortals and couldn't take on such a job.

As for respect, what respect, from people like yourself who think that because someone doesn't know his Intercooler outlet diameter, or his plug grading etc., then he isn't worthy of talking to or owning one.

Grow up mate and don't judge people by your own small standards.

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I think you`ll find that a lot of people will be offended by your post because
1.You dont even have a Skyline.
2.You think you`re some kind of tuning God.
3.You come on our forum & have the cheek to call us gtst owners nobheads.
4.There is absolutely no point to your post at all.
5.You cant even spell correctly. Their not "there"


Whats the web address of the rx7 forum/owners club? I think its time i visited it & read all your posts to see how much of a twat you really are.
 

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Project Cars

OK.

I own an R34 that will probably be at TOTB. It was built entirely in the UK and to date has cost me about £110,000. It runs a T88 and 2.8 conversion as well as 295 tyres all round and 10pot brakes and many other bits.

I also co-own Project X, which would have cost about £150k to build here, but cost much less by buying it - makes sense eh!

Oh and which technical bits do you want talk about on Project X? The specification of any part whatsoever, or engine details like AFR ratios, boost curves, ignition timings, volumetric efficiencies, the ramp rate on the fuel regulators, the locking bias on the diffs, the speed of variation of torque split against speed or the peak brake mean effective pressure (bmep) in the cylinders.

Yeah you're right - I don't know f**k all about cars.........

Guy
 

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Bringing name down

Ah a good controversial post

I am interested in the last part of your post as I dont know too much about the project cars but have you taken the time to actually read any of the posts? I think you'll find the GTST owners (myself included) realise we do not have the monster that is the GTR and that getting that kind of hp is a lot more work than just the filter, exhaust and boost you state.

That said it is not impossible only costly and there are a fair few up at that mark.

Also as to bringing the Skyline name down - I have never since joining this group seen any GTST owner pretend to own something they dont or any of the GTR owners to display the sort of elitist attitude you have.

Must be great to be perfect I suppose

:rolleyes:

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1. I have owned 2 R32 GTRs
2. When did I say that?
3. I did not call you ALL nobheads.
4. Why have you repsonded to it then.
5. Correect.

Guy, thank-you very much for responding. You obviously know lots about this Skyline.

This is starter question.

If you are setting the car up and you are using the EGT gauge, and the temps are to high, what would you adjust fuel or ignition?

Also what are the fuel system upgardes on the car?
 

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1,you may well have owned 2 GTrs but you dont now therefore you dont own a Skyline
2,you didn`t have to say it
3,You said there was a lot of GTSt nobheads who think etc etc. Being a GTSt owner myself i take it personally. Maybe you should name all the people you think are nobheads to stop any confusion.
4,cos im annoyed

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H4D UU...

Wind your neck in matey.

I see little point in your post other than to stir up some sh**, which you seem to have managed.


Not all of us can afford to mod cars from stock in the uk (For the record, mine was totally stock when I bought it, and it is a GTS-T and PROUD OF IT, on its way to mod central), and we all need to start somewhere. I am 27 years old and actively decided to buy a GTS rather than GTR for various reasons as my skyline start point in the knowledge that in the future I will buy a GTR (and whip your nancy ass in it too. Probably could in my 'NOBHEAD' GTS already).

Skylines aren't exactly falling off trees you may have noticed (then again, maybe not as you live in such a blinkered world), so many people import them. Now, what usually happens I guess is that said person sits down and works out their budget. They then look to see what they can get for that price in Japan (including import etc etc). And, lo and behold, (excuse the sarcasm but I am thoroughly pi**ed off with this thread), they may find a car which is in their budget, which they like, and which has (god forbid, you to**er) been modified in Japan. So, they buy it (and so would you, and fine you know it).
What's wrong with that??

Now, as for all the 'project this and thats' going around...
I too am a bit tired of all these project names, but then again, I don't have one (and neither do you). If I did have a car with the spec of those guys, I'd be proud of it too (as they well should be), and I would want to call it something special (nothing wrong with that).


You state you want the japanese to be interested in how we mod cars (which they designed and built), and I am sure that in time it may happen when tuning parts for them are designed and made here in the UK. Then again, the Japanese society is a very civilised and pleasant one, and I am sure they would not be interested in associating with cheeky f****rs like you, so you are probably just delaying the process.

Tit. Take your opinions and ***** **** ** **** *** ****** * **.

Freedom of speech is a great thing, freedom of complete muppets is another.

And if I hear another bad word about GTS owners you better start a conversation with me pretty quick, cos its the only way you will know I am not on the way over to kick your ass.

(PS - Personally speaking, I reckon could strip and rebuild my own car, as could 90% of folks on this forum.)
 

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Why do we have to answer your pathetic questions on the EGT ? You could have asked a more difficult question rather than insult our intelligence.

I agree some people will not know the answer but then they don't want to perhaps. I have met plenty of people who have had their cars tuned/work done and don't know the ins and outs of it. It doesn't make them any less an enthusiast or passionate about their cars/s.

Like I said don't judge people by your own standards or what they should or shouldn't know.

Oh, and quote GTS's when you know about 'em.

Yep, you have came here to have a wind up as you are probably very bored.

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RX7 man, I apologise for some here... the sun has gone away and some of us are very angry about it!!!

Come on guys... I know the temps have dropped but chill a little...

Address the mans points or you gift the man a 'victory'...

I would ask that some of you, take a look at those posts and edit them to show you in a better light...

H4, these cars are not just for this one event, well I hope not as that would be a waste, and so they have many uses apart from just (hopefully) showing a clean pair of heels at the TOTB, the other use which I think is incidental is that they 'raise the game' here, they act as spurs to our own home grown tuners and shown the way another Countrys' tuners ahve dealt with some of the stumbling blocks that can cost 10s' of thousands and months to sort.

The same point will be reached by other marques as they reach the limit and look around the World to push the boundaries...

That is how I see them, but I do agree with you that to many it is just 'Cheque Book Winning' well lets face it, that is also the way of the World.

Regards.
 

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gift the man a victory. What are you on about. Oh and don't apologise on my behalf please.

He comes on here putting down our choices of where we purchase our cars with our money, summises we know absolutely f**k all about Skylines, and knocks us for not working on our own cars.

FYI and RX7's my UK tuner does know everything about my car and is fettling it for even greater things.

Sounds like their is something behind this RX7 guy and his comments on good luck to UK tuned/built GTR's at TOTB. I smell a sh*t stirrer.

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I do actually agree with Mycroft,in that as for every day usage,it would seem a bit of a f**** to buy performance built cars.
When it comes to serious competition(a very expensive hobby indeed),anybody with a bit of sense will look worldwide for the best performance packages.That normally ends up at the country of origin,where all the best tuners and suppliers are.So naturally,our guys are going to use those resources to their full extent.In the meantime,as with all things,there is a learning curve and this is where the learning starts!
If these guys didnt know squat about cars,they wouldnt bother buying them in the first place,as they wouldnt know what to do with them.
This Forum is brimming with very clever guys indeed,and through sharing their knowledge to others,means that even a GTST Knobhead like me(as you would like to refer me as)get to increase their level of knowledge.
AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER GREAT MINDS MAYBE ,but it is a kindred thing and i am glad to be a part of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



My one and only question to you Mr RX7,is what competition standard car have you built yourself!

regards...............Paul
 

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Tokyo, I only apologised for some... should you wish to be specifically excluded then so be it... as to his motives... if they were to prod around for a nerve or test the GTR members motives for importing power then frankly some of our answers are a gift to him, he has been rounded on for daring to enquire of us.

To all.....

I will walk from this, again apologising, this time tho for my interruption to this forums considered and well argued replies.

Sorry for the interruption guys! :)
 

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I do agree with what Mycroft is saying. It would be prudent of us to reply to 'bait and catch' posts with a little more decorum.

However, I also agree totally with Glen, it seems RX7 dude H4D UU (is your user name a real number plate or is it a tool of the troll trade?) perhaps should have worded his post a little better!

From what I've read, although I'm not competing in TOTB, I think he has practically described me. I've just bought a tricked up Nur from Japan, it's going straight to a tuner for 500 something bhp and no, I haven't got a clue where the spark plug is - litteraly.

To echo Glens sentiments, just because I'm not a technical person, it makes me no less of an enthusiast then the next guy. In fact, you'll find me championing the cause of the Skyline at every opportunity, despite my mechanical disabilities - take a look at this site and tell me I have no enthusiasm.

H4D UU, your point about the person having the most money being a winner isn't totally invalid though. All it takes for someone to win this event is a infite pool of funds and it's game over for the opposition.

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Guy, thank-you very much for responding. You obviously know lots about this Skyline.

This is starter question.

If you are setting the car up and you are using the EGT gauge, and the temps are to high, what would you adjust fuel or ignition?

Also what are the fuel system upgardes on the car?
My R34 runs an uprated Nismo 270l/hr fuel pump, feeding into a swirl pot thats feeds a single 450l/hr Bosch Motorsport pump. It runs a larger fuel rail and 1000cc injectors.

The R32 runs a similar in tank pump, to a swirl pot, where 2 Bosch pumps pump through twin fuel lines to the front. The car runs a Greddy plenum with twin fuel rails (10.5mm I think), with the first rail running 720cc and the secondary rail running 550cc injectors. It is all controlled by HKS FCon Pro software, which runs off a MAP sensor ie no air-flow meters. Oh and it has an HKS TwinPower Ignition Amplifier.

I hope satisfies your question.

As for mapping my chosen engine specialists (Abbey Motorsport), would not use anything as crude as an EGT guage to map a car. They use a 5 -wire wide-band lamda sensor and map the AFR ratios accordingly on their dyno.

Guy
 

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Sorry to say this mycroft but if you`re siding with/defending this rx7 twat then maybe you should **** off as well. You`ll have noticed by now that i dont care what i say or who i upset. The last thing the skyline community needs right now since the formation of 2 seperate clubs is people who aren`t skyline owners coming & on here winding everyone up.
Excuse my french but if yours & rx7 guys intent is none other than that then please **** off & do it somewhere else.
 
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