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6s / 200mph on pump gas with a nissan? Thats the goal.

61K views 137 replies 62 participants last post by  glensR33  
#1 ·
I've been working on a new project for RIPS for a little while and have enough done that its worth sharing.

As you may know, we have run 7.2 @ 186mph with a RB30 on petrol and claimed a few records off the V8 boys during the last season.

I wanted to move up a class or 2 so I could claim records in the higher brackets but was told I couldn't go in those classes or claim the records because my engine was too small (read between the lines: because we were already running quicker than the existing record and the old school V8 boys didn't want to lose more records to a jappa)

Our classes are based on kg per liter and although I said I accepted I would be at a dissadvantage running in a higher class than I actually weighed in to, they wouldn't allow it.

After dodging being banned last year due to having "an unfair advantage" with 4 valve and efi, they asked that I help with submissions to bring parity back into the classes so push rod / carbed or mech inj V8s would be competitive with 4 valve efi enignes.

After much discussion we came with 4 valve = cc x 1.25 and if you had efi as well, take that figure and multiply by a further 1.15 so a 3000cc engine would be 3000 x 1.25 = 3750cc and if you were efi as well, 3750 x 1.15 giving a total of 4312.5cc and then the normal kg per liter formular would apply to put you into a particular class.

Now that that was all sorted my currnet front engined dragster still wasn't eligable for any higher classes than I have already been in so there was only one thing to do........

Build a new car that had a much bigger engine and get the vehicle weight just right so I could go in the 2 higher classes I previously wasn't allowed in.

This is what I'm working on and I want to run solid 6s @ 200mph+ on pump gas, using a stock block honed for new rings only, a stock crank polished for new bearings only, the stock cradle and bolts, no head porting, stock head bolts and stock head gaskets etc.

The 1NZ chassis from the 2009/2010 season arrived at my shop :clap::clap:


2 hours later it was stripped to a bare frame:




Not long after that we had this sitting in there just to confirm the engine I wanted to use would actually fit:


It was a tight fit and the exhaust ports only just cleared the chassis but a miss is as good as a mile so the green light was given........let the fun begin :thumbsup:
 
#4 ·
Rob you feeling unloved now SVM own the forum?

Hahaha I hadn't noticed tbh, I don't go on the R35 section, some shall we say 'strange' guys on there man! :nervous:
 
#5 ·
You really are mad arn't you Rob!

Had you thought about running the new Safari 6pot block? There are kits for 5.2lt

....Imagine what they think of you when you beat them with an engine out of Mum's taxi!

Good on you for sticking with a Nissan engine tho!
 
#7 ·
Had you thought about running the new Safari 6pot block? There are kits for 5.2lt

....Imagine what they think of you when you beat them with an engine out of Mum's taxi!

Good on you for sticking with a Nissan engine tho!
I've been trying to find a TB48 for 3 years and still nothing and besides, they are VERY heavy and none of the TB48s I've seen have got to much more than maybe 1300-1500hp and I'm after quite a bit more power than that:

The V8 I have is bigger than you can take a TB48 out to and I needed cubes to get into the class I wanted plus I wanted to basicly double my proven RB30 "recipie" on a V8.

Next I mounted a couple of billet wheeled GTX45s good for 1500hp each:


Then I jigged up the collectors so I could begin the exhaust manifolds:


I made collector cones:


And added them to the end of the manifold pipes:




Right side headers starting to take shape now:


Left side headers done to match and V-band flanges put on the ends:


I then made pipes to go from the V-band flanges to the turbine housings:


And then spent considerable time sorting out mounting the turbosmart 60mm wastegates so they were exactly where I wanted them, symetrical, on short pipes and with correct integration:
 
#9 ·
Fair enough on the TB48, This looks like it will be truely insane! Love the turbo's location!

What will you run as a gearbox? Is the one in the FED going to be able to cope with this power?
 
#15 ·
Its a VK56

Rob could you not use twin rb30's, One in the front and one behind, or both up front.
I'm sure I remember you posting a picture of the fed with twin engines as a mock up..
Yeah I did mock it up in the FED chassis but not do-able with this chassis, if I started from nothing the rules do allow it but 2 x RB30s would be ALOT heavier than this engine, be alot more complicated to get working right and alot more work overall.

This chassis won the championship last year and 60ft'd in 0.95 - 0.97 with alot less power and tyre than I will run so its a very good base for what I want to do.

Lovely project Rob :thumbsup:
Be sure to make them V8 boys cry now :chuckle:
Hahaha, yeah although I suppose I am going to be a V8 boy myself (hangs head in shame:chairshot) at least I'm doing it with dohc, efi and turbo's.:thumbsup:
 
#16 ·
Beginnings of the electrical tray and dash panel and the seat will NOT stay purple:




Starting to mock up the oil and water tanks:


 
#19 ·
I've got lots to do but nothing else is "better" atm no. lol :thumbsup:
 
#20 ·
Looks awesome as per usual Rob, I love your attitude to things, you come against an obstacle and just work around it with a complete new build, and will no doubt blow them into the weeds in the process! Can't wait to see more of the progress...
 
#22 ·
Cheers mate.........One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time:thumbsup:
 
#24 ·
Yeah I did mock it up in the FED chassis but not do-able with this chassis, if I started from nothing the rules do allow it but 2 x RB30s would be ALOT heavier than this engine, be alot more complicated to get working right and alot more work overall.

This chassis won the championship last year and 60ft'd in 0.95 - 0.97 with alot less power and tyre than I will run so its a very good base for what I want to do.



Fair point rob. Good luck with the project and look forward to following it's build and progress as the records fall.
 
#27 ·
Please hurry up - cant wait to hear the roar of that thing going down the strip.

Rob the builder.
 
#28 ·
Next up was the dump and screamer pipes, I played with all sorts of templetes for supports and different angles for the pipes:






I decided I'd do some billet mounts to support both pipes but tested my idea with some cut on the water jet first:










Starting to take shape now and I'm actually enjoying working with a symetrical set up for a change:
 
#30 ·
I'd thought of that, if you look at the last picture, I've spread them further apart.

I'll be off throttled before the chute comes out and the lines are no-where near the pipes or exhaust flow once its deployed.

If it ever did become an issue, I'll add a little kick out on the end of the pipes.