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R32 GTR or R33 GTR

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#1 ·
I know this question has probably been asked 1000+ times. I have an R35 which I love but want something manual and always wanted an R32 or R33.

I DO NOT want to build a drag car but would like to build something for the streets and a few track days.

Im looking to run around 650hp from a single turbo.

But which should GTR should I go for? :confused:
 
#2 ·
Imo that's a question of personal preference.... the 32 gets my vote.
I've found it a much nicer drive thank my old 33 which just seemed a bit big and cumbersome .
Also has some quirky features like the dash mounted light and wiper controls

Tuning capability of both will be near identical , however early 32 rbs have the less reliable oil drive collar on the crank... something you would no doubt want to sort out if shooting for 600+
I'm no expert but that's what I have surmised from my experience so far.

HTH

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#3 ·
Go R33, fit a getrag and have some serious fun. Also, Keiichi Tsuchiya said. Because of the longer wheelbase on the R33 it handles better than the R32. This man knows his stuff...

 
#9 ·
Go R33, fit a getrag and have some serious fun. Also, Keiichi Tsuchiya said. Because of the longer wheelbase on the R33 it handles better than the R32. This man knows his stuff...

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Keiichi Tsuchiya had to lie about the R33, he actually preferred the R32.

Apparently some Yakuza boss, at that time, had an R33 and made him say it was better... just saying. :rolleyes:
 
#6 ·
Some say I'm biased, Others say I'm wise....You Decide?!

But which should GTR should I go for? :confused:
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The BCNR33 was twenty seconds quicker around the NĂĽrburgring than the earlier designed BNR32....

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I DO NOT want to build a drag car but would like to build something for the streets and a few track days.
So, I'd then go for the BCNR33 thanks to its stiffer chassis and better Record Breaking (at that time) Lap Time!

Im looking to run around 650hp from a single turbo.
Its an RB26, Modern built ones that are Tuned well and looked after seem to handle higher power outputs with ease.

JM2PW!:)
 
#13 ·
As you didnt say you were going Golfing !
Get a 32.
:chuckle::chuckle:
Cokey
 
#14 ·
With the RB26 you're working with 80s engine technology. No variable valve timing, no variable intake geometry, no variable valve lift, no direct injection, low displacement, a big air to air intercooler, and ancient turbos. It's not like an R35 which achieves 700 hp without a ton of work. The engine shipped with ~300 hp because it has a narrowband O2 with no safety mechanisms to protect against lean-out in high boost, small turbos that take forever to spool, and a weak PCV system that is really not well equipped to deal with blowby at high boost.

So the question is how badly do you want that specific power number? You can do it but it will come at the cost of usability on the street. An 8.5:1 2.6L or even ~2.8L I6 does not make for a very powerful engine off boost. Or you can do an impressively expensive RB32DET build, toss in some VCAM while you're at it. Keep in mind that getting that extra ~400 cc of displacement will mean the engine will be too tall to clear the OEM hood.

On the subject of R32 vs R33, it's up to whether you want something smaller and more "raw" or larger and more refined. The R33 lost a lot of the hard edges both figuratively and literally that the R32 had.
 
#16 ·
The boss of my local shop has a 600+hp R34 GTR, 2 GTTs, 2 R33 GTRs and probably 5 AE86s (in various states of disrepair) and he always goes on and on about how much better R32s are to drive and how much he misses his old one. However, he's a drift/track guy (his daily is a little Daihatsu) so I imagine that "better" means "more fun to drive on a track."
 
#17 ·
The boss of my local shop has a 600+hp R34 GTR, 2 GTTs, 2 R33 GTRs and probably 5 AE86s (in various states of disrepair)
Nice collection of iconic vehicles He has there kenecchi!:bowdown1:

and he always goes on and on about how much better R32s are to drive and how much he misses his old one.
How odd that He currently has three Skyline GT-R's but none of them are BNR32's....:nervous:

However, he's a drift/track guy (his daily is a little Daihatsu) so I imagine that "better" means "more fun to drive on a track."
Or cheap enough to destroy whilst Drifting.:(
 
#18 ·
I have both R33 and R32 GTR , always fun to drive them back to back and compare , yeah the R33 is bigger , but shrinks around you when driving , and there's no denying the chassis is stiffer on the R33 , I have an underbody brace on route for the R32 , wonder if that will bridge the percieved gap ?

Looks wise , R32 IS the original gangster , however a tidy R33 GTR sure has some presence on the road .

Preference ? I could not choose TBH , both are capable of more performance than my driving ability can dish out , the R33 is more stable and refined on the road 100% .

Hard call to make , drive both , make your own decision on what suits

R33 prices have shot up of late in Japan , just dont buy a rusty one of either model and you'll be happy
 
#19 ·
6 or 7 years ago it was common to find R32s and 33s in decent mechanical condition for around ***65509;800,000 ~ 1,000,000 so lots of people were happily sliding them into walls until the US market opened up to them and the prices started going up.

Even looking at them back then I felt the same way as I do now: The R32 looks great but it's very much an old car. It's like the 180SX of Skylines. The 34 has always been way too expensive to justify; even back then they were between 3,000,000 and 5,000,000, especially Global Auto's cars, but they don't offer much advantage over a 32. The 33 is still the only 3X GTR that makes any sense to buy, although considering how prices are going up I would probably be looking at GTTs or GT4s if I were planning to drive it regularly.
 
#21 ·
I went through this same question for a couple months when i went from a r34 to a r32 or r33. The guru's I talk to here in Japan, in general, like the look of the r32 but say the r33 drives more like the r34 which they prefer overall. Like others have said, if you want more raw, the r32 is the car, but if you want more refined and better tech (v-spec), get the 33. I just got a series 1 single-owner r33 v-spec and love it. But with how old these cars are, I would just get a the cleanest most rust-free non-accident car you can find whether it be r33 or r32. You'll be happy either way. Note, the prices in Japan are going way up for r33's. Expect to pay about $40k (US) for a series 1 r33 non-accident v-spec grade 4 car. Clean non-accident low mileage r32's (non-v-spec) here are $40k+ easily also. I see them as high as $60k. The US markets are swooping up the r33's now. If I didn't have to deal with CA laws when I go back, I'd get a series 2 or 3 R33 v-spec since the prices are better and the steering wheels are not ugly.