ive only had my R35 a short while and think its spectacular in every way driving wise, BUT for some reason the R34 GTR still had something special and magical about it even though in terms of performance it cant touch the , I cannot put my finger on it. anyone else whos had both feel the same?
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Maybe this missing magic is all down to driver involvement Amar?? You've got to work to get the most out of the inline engined Skylines where as the newer V6 power'd GT-R does it with just a finger flick of one of the paddles....:chuckle:
Since you've had both now mate, Does a true 500bhp Skyline GT-R really have no chance when going head to head against a STD R35 GT-R? I'm only asking this again because Evo magazine put a stock R34 Skyline GT-R and a 2013 R35 GT-R around the track and they posted identical times around that circuit!
Surely the lighter 2.6L Skyline with a higher power output that matched the newer Nissan could've gone slightly quicker than the heavier 3.8L GT-R did??????
Since you've had both now mate, Does a true 500bhp Skyline GT-R really have no chance when going head to head against a STD R35 GT-R? I'm only asking this again because Evo magazine put a stock R34 Skyline GT-R and a 2013 R35 GT-R around the track and they posted identical times around that circuit!
Surely the lighter 2.6L Skyline with a higher power output that matched the newer Nissan could've gone slightly quicker than the heavier 3.8L GT-R did??????
its only my opinion, I haven't done any lap times etc to compare, but just from normal driving the 35 just feels better in terms of performance ,and pretty much every other way.
personal choice though, I would choose a R34, there is just something about the 34 which does it for me like no other car. think the 34 looks way better than the 35.
personal choice though, I would choose a R34, there is just something about the 34 which does it for me like no other car. think the 34 looks way better than the 35.
So,
a Mine's R34 Skyline GT-R with 630PS & 1350kgs = 1'08:93 Lap-Time
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a Mine's R35 GT-R with 600PS & 1740kgs = 1'09:79 Lap-Time
T'was not the crushing defeat from the all conquering techno-fests that I was expecting from that video with the Mine's R34 GT-R finishing second overall with two R35's GT-R's left behind him!
IMHO, The Mine's R34 Skyline GT-R looks better, sounds better, looked more stable on the limit, was only half a second behind the brand new version and ultimately looked much more fun to drive during that race. I guess that's what driving enthusiasts mean by character and soul!!!
JM2PW!
a Mine's R34 Skyline GT-R with 630PS & 1350kgs = 1'08:93 Lap-Time
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a Mine's R35 GT-R with 600PS & 1740kgs = 1'09:79 Lap-Time
Thanks for posting that FRRACER!
T'was not the crushing defeat from the all conquering techno-fests that I was expecting from that video with the Mine's R34 GT-R finishing second overall with two R35's GT-R's left behind him!
IMHO, The Mine's R34 Skyline GT-R looks better, sounds better, looked more stable on the limit, was only half a second behind the brand new version and ultimately looked much more fun to drive during that race. I guess that's what driving enthusiasts mean by character and soul!!!
JM2PW!
I've driven 2 R35's now and I think they are technically briliant. It's amazing what the can do.
BUT and this a big but, i still love my R33 GTR. As soon as you get in it it feels special. To hear the whistle of the GT40 which sounds like a jet taking off, the clunks from the diff, the rattling of the plates when the clutch peddle is depressed, the rattle of the cryo treated gears and the screamer (giggle). It all makes up for an incredible assault on the senses. I don't drive it any where near what it is capable of, but then I don't have to. Just getting in and squirting the throttle is just brilliant.
I think I'll have it for quite a while. I also makes a difference that I go to work in a beaten up old Primera during the week knowing it's waiting for the weekend. I'll never get bored.
BUT and this a big but, i still love my R33 GTR. As soon as you get in it it feels special. To hear the whistle of the GT40 which sounds like a jet taking off, the clunks from the diff, the rattling of the plates when the clutch peddle is depressed, the rattle of the cryo treated gears and the screamer (giggle). It all makes up for an incredible assault on the senses. I don't drive it any where near what it is capable of, but then I don't have to. Just getting in and squirting the throttle is just brilliant.
I think I'll have it for quite a while. I also makes a difference that I go to work in a beaten up old Primera during the week knowing it's waiting for the weekend. I'll never get bored.
guys i think you're loosing focus on this topic... it's not a matter of speed ( drag or around a track) , we all know the GT-R is a better performance machine...
i think we need to talk about pleasure... i own a really nice R34 GTR for 5 years and i test drove 2 GT-Rs ... one was about 650hp ohlins etc.... honestly these cars impressed me... but i don't want to own one. because i know in more or less time this car won't make me smile anymore.
5 years after buying it i'm still smiling when driving it on road just in normal cruising or on track trashing it. and once parked i can't resist to look at it. that's a good proof isn't it?
i think we need to talk about pleasure... i own a really nice R34 GTR for 5 years and i test drove 2 GT-Rs ... one was about 650hp ohlins etc.... honestly these cars impressed me... but i don't want to own one. because i know in more or less time this car won't make me smile anymore.
5 years after buying it i'm still smiling when driving it on road just in normal cruising or on track trashing it. and once parked i can't resist to look at it. that's a good proof isn't it?
Yeah mon, back at Manchester airport at 7-00am for 8C after 2 weeks of 35C !!!
Did txt you (I think) are you about as Gary and I are doing CC on the 1st Sept & SS on 25th
Did txt you (I think) are you about as Gary and I are doing CC on the 1st Sept & SS on 25th
I find my R35 very involving to be honest, more so than my R32 was. The difference for me being my R32 only had 400hp whereas my R35 has nearer 650. This means the car often goes sideways and has the ability to spin up all four wheels which brings additional instability and involvement.
I don't run on the stickiest tyres and don't run huge profiles on the rear which helps with this and I also have the kw coilover sleeve kit which may help. My car is also pretty loud (catless downpipes) which adds to the presence and experience.
I was wrestling the thing yesterday and wondering how anyone could think it wasn't a joyful experience.
Edit: I appreciate my comparison is to my R32 and I don't know how different the R32 is to the R34 - my assumption being the R32 is roarer and as such even further from the R35 but still similar enough to the R34 to allow comparison. Now I don't know what my thoughts would be had I gone the single turbo /600hp route.
I don't run on the stickiest tyres and don't run huge profiles on the rear which helps with this and I also have the kw coilover sleeve kit which may help. My car is also pretty loud (catless downpipes) which adds to the presence and experience.
I was wrestling the thing yesterday and wondering how anyone could think it wasn't a joyful experience.
Edit: I appreciate my comparison is to my R32 and I don't know how different the R32 is to the R34 - my assumption being the R32 is roarer and as such even further from the R35 but still similar enough to the R34 to allow comparison. Now I don't know what my thoughts would be had I gone the single turbo /600hp route.
its just everything about the r34, looks the best out of all the GTR's in my opinion and I think in most peoples opinions?? also the fact of how rare they are, they have the jaw dropping factor.
I know the 32 is great but to compare to the 34 , these guys are just kidding themselves I think.
I know the 32 is great but to compare to the 34 , these guys are just kidding themselves I think.
Yep seen a couple in Japan but want to get something special when I can find it.
They not the easiest of cars to find
They not the easiest of cars to find
I have an R34 GT-R quite highly tuned but just can't understand why it has the image it does. For me it doesn't live up to the status it has gained over the years.
I'm thinking to move it on and get an NSX or maybe a bike engined race car (maybe a Spire GT) just to see what they are like.
I don't really care how a car looks while I'm driving it - I will agree the R34 is a beatiful car though.
I don't think I will ever own an R35, in fact I doubt I will ever buy another Nissan.
One thing that will always be in my garage is an Evo 6 - I just love bady maintained windy backroads, off camber bends, getting air over crests etc. the sort of roads that the R34 just doesn't feel comfortable on. If there is a car that does those roads better than a CP9A, I will have one.
I think everyone has there own driving style and preferances as to what a car is to them - for many it's a status symbol and has to be the latest model, for others it's a purely about performance on track, some people look for future classics and others want to own existing classics...
If you like the R34 best, then buy a Nür II and look after it!
I'm thinking to move it on and get an NSX or maybe a bike engined race car (maybe a Spire GT) just to see what they are like.
I don't really care how a car looks while I'm driving it - I will agree the R34 is a beatiful car though.
I don't think I will ever own an R35, in fact I doubt I will ever buy another Nissan.
One thing that will always be in my garage is an Evo 6 - I just love bady maintained windy backroads, off camber bends, getting air over crests etc. the sort of roads that the R34 just doesn't feel comfortable on. If there is a car that does those roads better than a CP9A, I will have one.
I think everyone has there own driving style and preferances as to what a car is to them - for many it's a status symbol and has to be the latest model, for others it's a purely about performance on track, some people look for future classics and others want to own existing classics...
If you like the R34 best, then buy a Nür II and look after it!
The R35 is impressive.
The RB cars are more involving.
I've learn't that after having three R35s, the last of which was a new MY14 which I ran alongside my R32.
For a fun blast RB car all day long.
Four all round daily usability and capbility R35 all day long.
To me a GT-R is a weekend toy, so I decided to just keep the R32.
When you said about getting the R35 it seemed like something you had to get out of your system.
Amazing cars and I really do like them, but they just don't have the old school interaction of husstling a well sorted RB car along.
The performance is too easy to access in the R35, which is why it's technically so good.
The RB cars are more involving.
I've learn't that after having three R35s, the last of which was a new MY14 which I ran alongside my R32.
For a fun blast RB car all day long.
Four all round daily usability and capbility R35 all day long.
To me a GT-R is a weekend toy, so I decided to just keep the R32.
When you said about getting the R35 it seemed like something you had to get out of your system.
Amazing cars and I really do like them, but they just don't have the old school interaction of husstling a well sorted RB car along.
The performance is too easy to access in the R35, which is why it's technically so good.
Have you driven a nsx ?
I was very disappointed.
QUOTE=The Brigand;3088026]I have an R34 GT-R quite highly tuned but just can't understand why it has the image it does. For me it doesn't live up to the status it has gained over the years.
I'm thinking to move it on and get an NSX or maybe a bike engined race car (maybe a Spire GT) just to see what they are like.
I don't really care how a car looks while I'm driving it - I will agree the R34 is a beatiful car though.
I don't think I will ever own an R35, in fact I doubt I will ever buy another Nissan.
One thing that will always be in my garage is an Evo 6 - I just love bady maintained windy backroads, off camber bends, getting air over crests etc. the sort of roads that the R34 just doesn't feel comfortable on. If there is a car that does those roads better than a CP9A, I will have one.
I think everyone has there own driving style and preferances as to what a car is to them - for many it's a status symbol and has to be the latest model, for others it's a purely about performance on track, some people look for future classics and others want to own existing classics...
If you like the R34 best, then buy a Nür II and look after it![/QUOTE]
I was very disappointed.
QUOTE=The Brigand;3088026]I have an R34 GT-R quite highly tuned but just can't understand why it has the image it does. For me it doesn't live up to the status it has gained over the years.
I'm thinking to move it on and get an NSX or maybe a bike engined race car (maybe a Spire GT) just to see what they are like.
I don't really care how a car looks while I'm driving it - I will agree the R34 is a beatiful car though.
I don't think I will ever own an R35, in fact I doubt I will ever buy another Nissan.
One thing that will always be in my garage is an Evo 6 - I just love bady maintained windy backroads, off camber bends, getting air over crests etc. the sort of roads that the R34 just doesn't feel comfortable on. If there is a car that does those roads better than a CP9A, I will have one.
I think everyone has there own driving style and preferances as to what a car is to them - for many it's a status symbol and has to be the latest model, for others it's a purely about performance on track, some people look for future classics and others want to own existing classics...
If you like the R34 best, then buy a Nür II and look after it![/QUOTE]
the NSX is considered one of the best driving cars ever made..period. its not however a very powerful car when you have driven other modern day machines.
its not really about how fast it goes in a straight line, its a car meant for the track.
you have gone through several GT-Rs in the last 6months or so.
34s, and 35s.
so your making a few £ on the ones you punt on after ownership, then use that to buy something else, which is fair enough.
your 35 wanted post, i think i said you would have the car for a short period of time, and the same will be true for the Nur.
Finding a really good Nur is very hard work, and they hold their money extremely well for obvious reasons.
regarding the evo6, this is definitely a car i would have (and have had for several years) its a great b road blaster.
its not really about how fast it goes in a straight line, its a car meant for the track.
you have gone through several GT-Rs in the last 6months or so.
34s, and 35s.
so your making a few £ on the ones you punt on after ownership, then use that to buy something else, which is fair enough.
your 35 wanted post, i think i said you would have the car for a short period of time, and the same will be true for the Nur.
Finding a really good Nur is very hard work, and they hold their money extremely well for obvious reasons.
regarding the evo6, this is definitely a car i would have (and have had for several years) its a great b road blaster.
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